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The "will everton go down" thread

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by moreinjuredthanowen, Mar 23, 2022.

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Who will go down

Poll closed Mar 30, 2022.
  1. Norwich

    85.7%
  2. Burnley

    71.4%
  3. Watford

    57.1%
  4. Everton

    14.3%
  5. Leeds

    28.6%
  6. Brentford

    42.9%
  7. Newcastle

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. Milk..

    Milk.. Well-Known Member

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    Leicester isn't top 6. They sometimes holiday in the top 6 but if you consider top six teams it's the London three, the Manchester two and us. One or two may occasionally miss the target but over a span of time you'd expect each of those teams in the top six most years for the foreseeable future.

    Yes Ranieri won the league with Leicester, but that's pretty much an anomaly. The fact that Rodgers has managed to keep a team that until recently was a Championship perennial in the top half of the table and frequently breaking the top 6, consistently is pretty impressive. He'll never repeat Ranieri's feat, but I doubt Ranieri could repeat it either.

    I think Rodgers is a decent enough manager. He's not as good as Klopp... He's not as good as Pep. He's not as good as Tuchel... But he wouldn't be above his station if he were manager of Arsenal, or Spurs (or even Chelsea now they've lost their blank slate funding).
     
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  2. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I would still strong suggest there is no top 6 at all and spurs are simply pretending to be involved. Spurs were a biggish club 80 years ago. I can barely recall them being good in the 80s in a couple of cup runs

    But then again 2 of the so called top 6 are oil dopers with no real support and would be back to also rans the second the doping is removed. I fully expect chelsea to slump once one of these bidders gets their hands on them with the express purpose of floating on ny stock market like utd.

    I am very sure they see a distressed asset up for sale that can be flipped to the stock market for a killing.

    Broughton bid now has Serena Williams in for a miserable 10mil. That's sure speculation.

    The notion of a top table is really a press construct that will shortly have Newcastle wedged in
     
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  3. Milk..

    Milk.. Well-Known Member

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    It took City several years of unlimited funding before they could really be considered a big team. Newcastle will have to be a little more subtle than City. I've no doubt they will eventually get there but I'd bet they don't make top four for five years.

    They will get there (probably at the expense of Spurs) but they're not in the same bracket yet.
     
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  4. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    It takes years of careful management to get competitive but only a year or two of bad results to lose it bit the dopers don't need anything and that's the issue.

    Cheslea will be replaced by Newcastle.
     
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  5. THE FOOL

    THE FOOL Well-Known Member

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    Made me giggle
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    What I want to know is what the hell kind of autocorrect is that <laugh>:huh:<yikes>

    Europe is become europenis

    Nice.

    I wonder if Google chrome autocorrect is actually off?
     
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    Sometimes I can't tell if he's doing it deliberately or not...
     
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  8. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I've spent 20mins trying to change my keyboard and check if spelling changes are turned on.

    I have managed to change the keyboard to take the space button and full stop beside it away and have only space bar, so it makes punctuation more awkward but removes the really annoying dot not space thing
     
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  9. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I think the phone might suggest but if you press space then it leaves it so no red line under it. Not sure you can actually get the desktop spell check on a phone?
     
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  10. Milk..

    Milk.. Well-Known Member

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    When is the next Europenis song contest going to be?
     
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  11. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Didn’t know that was part of his attraction as to why United got him.
     
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  12. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    The team Moyes inherited wasnt all that. Ferguson knew time was coming to end and didn’t plan for future, rvp was a very much sign now to win the league. There wasn’t a whole load of decent young 23/24 year olds to build in and that squad needed a rebuild which moyes didn’t get a chance to do really.
     
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  13. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Totally.

    It was a seriously weak team that in the last year was throwing in goals but scoring more.

    It was almost a free league that year for ferguson and then off you go

    Evra, vidic, ferdinando, giggs, Carrick.

    The likes of valencia playing rb and Rafael being useless

    It was probably a case of perfect timing to chuff off if you were a mourinho
     
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  14. Zanjinho

    Zanjinho Boom!
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    True. The last few years of Fergie's reign wasn't a squad filled with superstars, but he made it a very good team.
     
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  15. District Line

    District Line Well-Known Member
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    Moyes is better at big clubs like West Ham and Everton where the fans are demanding enough but don't have expectations. It was obvious that Man Utd job was too big for him and once he lost the derby to City (the 4-1) the writing was on the wall.
     
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  16. Mark Blow

    Mark Blow Well-Known Member

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    Everton aren’t a big club though, Leicester have won more in recent times. In the 56 years I’ve been on this earth, Everton’s success was between 1984-87. 2 leagues titles and the cup winners cup plus an fa cup in 95. Leicester have one league title and an fa cup in the last 7 years , not almost 40 years ago. It’s like saying Newcastle is a big club. They’ve won sweet fa , just have a big ground with lots of deluded supporters, just like Everton.
     
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  17. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Big is measured in support not trophies though.

    I'd rather call everton a historic club. Like Preston. Everton have a long and storied history of achievement and a large following that will fill that new ground.

    Leeds are similar. They had it hard though rank incompetence at board level and Everton look like Leeds on the slide tbh.

    When we start to talk big now in the global world some clubs have exploited the world of Internet and TV and some have not. Everton as not one of those clubs. Its that simple, there will be a few global fans but not many compared to plastic central.

    This July the worst man utd side in living memory will play Liverpool in Bangkok at 500 quid a head and will fill that massive stadium. That is what it is.

    Trophies follow the money then.
     
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  18. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid
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    Was a comment on radio yesterday saying that for anyone over 40 Everton are probably a big club. But anyone under the age of 30, they wouldn’t see Everton as a big club at all.

    They’ve won 1 trophy in last 30 years? Always been around mid table with a few flirts with relegation and few in Europe. Otherwise they’re a big standard mid table prem club and only reason would be shock at them going down is because they’ve never been relegated etc.
     
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  19. LuisDiazgamechanger

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    If Everton are eventually relegated most people are going to miss Merseyside Derby.
     
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  20. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    It's not an autocorrect. You typed an 'n' instead of a space - europe is becomes europenis. Simple.
     
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