But rarely does anyone have the full picture of the situation, and even if they did how many fans are there who would? Less than 10? I don't think the job suitability of a manager should be entirely decided by the fans but our judgements are significant.
Many of the players you have cited have been plagued with injury, are young or in Squilacci's case only bought because he was all we could afford to fill in. I can't believe how utterly ******ed this argument is. You want Wenger out, because he doesn't buy players that aren't for sale with money he hasn't got and because his reserve team and players he has sent out on loan arent good enough. Cracking argument there mate! The Man City Wage bill is about 250M ours is about 100M - Any established player we want, will be wanted by Man City, Chelsea or Manchester United as well (Jones, Mata). They will outbid us, they will pay the player more. We will not be able to buy the player. We cannot win a bidding war with these clubs. It is very simple, why can you not understand it.
Are you feeling shunned ? Come here btw I didn't avoid your post, I read it and took on board your point, it wasn't a question, so I felt no need to reply Once again - you big softy
But this is just hiding behind the wage bill argument, we do have money! We have more than Tottenham and look where they are! Last summer there were quality players (Vidal, Inler, Falcao, Diego on a free, Enrique, Pirlo etc) on the market that could improve our squad and who went to clubs who are poorer than we are, why didn't we try to buy them? Also all of the players I mentioned should be got rid of because they are not good enough or aren't worth the investment. Why do you think that is so stupid? I don't criticise the decision to buy them in the first place, just the decision to keep them at the club.
Hothead -- change your name - you are just a sweet softie really. love and kisses ( from a secret admirer).
some interesting points here today, but what i can see from most posts is that a few on here would still want wenger out even if we finished third this season, even if he spent 30 mil on one player they would still want him out. my point is you get it drilled into your heads by the press etc that wenger has lost it, how would you lot know, i don't, i don't work with the man day in day out like he does with 30 or so ppl who play for arsenal. i do read papers and the internet but i take no notice of the lies which most turn out to be even if he does spend 50 mil in the summer on 2 players that are printed the papers or the ones you are crying out for and it don't work out then they/you will still blame him.
if he spent 30 mil on a player i would definitely want him out. that is not the wenger who brought us doubles and massive unbeaten runs...
Its not. But times have changed, other clubs have improved their scouts. Look at Newcastle for example. Picking up bargains all over the place thanks to their improved scouting system. Arsenal got ahead of other clubs very early but they have all caught up now. If a player is special enough then I think Wenger should spend £30 odd Million on him. Wenger was ok with the club spending £12 Million on someone like AOC. A 18 year old that played all his football in League one. Hazard or someone like Goetze are worth the money in my opinion.
Ok - Lets look at the spurs financial situation and ours. Arsenal dept = 136M, Wages = 110M, Money put in by owners = 0, Loss before tax = 12M(estimated) Spurs dept = 65M, Wages = 67M, Money put in by Owners = 15M, Loss before Tax = 7M Our debt is double theirs and our wage bill nearly double. There is no doubt that they are doing fantastically well considering their wage bill. However, they do not face the injury situation we do. There is this myth that we have wads of cash to spend on players, but the truth is that we still face a crippling debt and an aggressive repayment schedule, for the emirites stadium. The aggressive repayment schedule is what makes the deal possible, as it makes the interest very low. Wenger has done well to keep us competitive despite this for a very long time. Looking at the finances there is no evidence to suggest that replacing wenger would mean more money on players. The loss of 6M over the first half of this financial year would indicate that Wenger spent everything he had to spend in the summer transfer window.
With Hazard or Goetz, the issue is not the transfer fee but the wages. Both these players can get double what we would pay them from several rich clubs. Arsenal FC cannot break their wage structure for one player. RVP will probably be sold (unless he is a big fan of Arsenal and Wenger) because we cannot afford to double the salary we pay to our senior players. If we did, and our wage bill grew by 20M or so, we would start failing to meet the payments on our loan repayment and our interest would go up. We would run a real risk of a financial meltdown. Buying the Emirates was a huge investment that crippled us for a long time. As fans we need to face up to this reality and be very patient.
Read the bit about having money to spend. http://swissramble.blogspot.com/2011/10/arsenals-finances-21-questions.html
Couple of things here that I think you should notice also. The issue of wages is not dealt with in the article. It says our wage policy needs a review, but it admits that we likely cannot afford wages for a star player. The article indicates that having a good cash position, or a "war chest of 50M" is not as significant as it might seem. The other thing is that this is last year's budget. What really is important is what the board thinks we will do this year. Given that the Guardian reports we actually made a loss in the second half of the year, I don't think the plan for this year will yield the bonanza of signings we had last year. Finally, there is the issue of the champions league. The author states "any expenditure in January might pay for itself if it makes the difference between qualifying for the Champions League or not." I suspect that the prospect of only breaking even in a best case scenario, is not considered a wonderful opportunity by the board.
So you are saying that it's the board that is holding Wenger back, rather than a basic lack of money? Can you prove this?
Think you are reading too much into my statement. But "lack of money" is a strange concept. You can always get money by borrowing. It is about whether the board approve the investment in players that is key. This notion that there is a pot of money or a piggy bank sitting around for transfers is a bit simplistic.
