The var thread

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St Badger said:
I tried to copy a video over, but it wouldn’t stick.
It was VAR confirming that a substitute, of the defending team, warming up behind the goal line had
kicked the ball back before it had actually gone out of play.
The ball was inches from crossing the line, no attacking player was close to, or even attempting, to keep the ball in play and there was no advantage to be gained by stopping the ball from going out for a goal kick, to the sub’s team.
The referee’s decision was to book the player AND award a penalty to the attacking side, that was duly scored.
I wasn’t aware that the ref could award a penalty in this type of situation. Maybe an uncontested drop ball to the attacking team?
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This was reported in the forum a couple of weeks or so back with a video. Bloody mental.
 
St Badger said:
I tried to copy a video over, but it wouldn’t stick.
It was VAR confirming that a substitute, of the defending team, warming up behind the goal line had
kicked the ball back before it had actually gone out of play.
The ball was inches from crossing the line, no attacking player was close to, or even attempting, to keep the ball in play and there was no advantage to be gained by stopping the ball from going out for a goal kick, to the sub’s team.
The referee’s decision was to book the player AND award a penalty to the attacking side, that was duly scored.
I wasn’t aware that the ref could award a penalty in this type of situation. Maybe an uncontested drop ball to the attacking team?
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Rules are if a sub keeps the ball in play it's a direct free kick to the other team. That player was an idiot. Why was he warming up there in the first place - it should be down the touchline and common sense dictates you let the ball go out of play.
 
saintrichie123 said:
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This might have more credibility if it didn’t come from one of the biggest clowns ever to referee a football match.

Seriously though, I have just seen the Pukki non-goal and that decision is an absolute shocker. It’s not just VAR that’s the problem, it’s the current offside law. Let’s go back to level is onside and clear daylight is off for God’s sake, not all this fingernails and armpits ****. And yes, I say that in the full knowledge of our having benefited from yet another shocker yesterday.
 
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saintrichie123 said:
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The 3 'goals' yesterday would barely have a second look though, when did we ever repeatedly look at offsides where the players are level?


Nobody can say with absolute certainty that Pukki was offside. It's not as black and white as people make out when it's that close.
 
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Libby said:
The 3 'goals' yesterday would barely have a second look though, when did we ever repeatedly look at offsides where the players are level?


Nobody can say with absolute certainty that Pukki was offside. It's not as black and white as people make out when it's that close.
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Absolutely this, we have to go back to giving attackers the benefit when its tight, its ruining the game
 
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Nice for those Wolves fans to be spending minutes standing around in the cold without ****ing a clue what's going on.


I agree with them, it's not football anymore.
 
ChilcoSaint said:
It’s not just VAR that’s the problem, it’s the current offside law. Let’s go back to level is onside and clear daylight is off for God’s sake, not all this fingernails and armpits ****..
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Doesn't that just move where the line is drawn? I've heard this a few time but I'm confused what the benefit is meant to be.

Then again I'm also confused as to why Zaha's torso being offside was contentious.
 
VocalMinority said:
Doesn't that just move where the line is drawn? I've heard this a few time but I'm confused what the benefit is meant to be.

Then again I'm also confused as to why Zaha's torso being offside was contentious.
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Well exactly. Like him or not, the Souness suggestion that if any part of the attacker’s body is onside, then he isn’t offside makes sense.

The trouble with the way VAR is being used at the moment for offside, is that essentially there are 3 moving points which have to be measured exactly, and the resolution of the cameras isn’t good enough. The last defender’s body, the attacker’s body, and, often forgotten but just as important, the exact moment when the ball is propelled forward towards the attacker, all have to be frozen in time. I would bet that in most cases, at least one of the moving points isn’t captured accurately. The hardest one to capture is the ball. At what point does a foot kicking a football make the ball move? When it first touches it, or as the ball leaves the surface of the boot? The time difference, while only a fraction of a second, is still enough to put the line drawn on the last defender in a different place, or move a running attacker to the other side of that line.

That being the case, VAR is not fit for purpose with the current technology and shouldn’t be used at all for offside.
 
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