The var thread

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  1. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    Change can also be change back.
     
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    Exactly. I am for the use of technology, so I am not anti-VAR, but it is this drama that is not needed. Don’t have a screen saying “VAR check.”

    Did I mention 10 seconds before?
     
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    The reason I go on about 10 seconds is simple. If the person needs longer then it isn’t clear and leave the on field referee’s decision to stand. Move on. Don’t allow the VAR to keep looking and looking and looking.

    We need to remember that underneath all this money and these businesses, is a sport. Don’t destroy the essence of the sport.
     
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    If they decide to chuck VAR out as a bad idea then that's cool but I don't think that they will in the same way that Cricket, Rugby and Tennis have developed decision video technology and established it. Can't see the old Wembley ever being rebuilt though!
     
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  5. fran-MLs little camera

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    This genie will not be put back in the bottle....all we can hope for is that they manage to sort out the advantages from the disadvantages. Minimal use in the areas where it can be effective without affecting the game adversely. Yeah....right. Not against the use of technology where it improves things, but many people seem to love it for its own sake....using it when old methods are easier or when it is unnecessary. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
     
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    Agree with your point fats, but disagree with the timescale. 30 seconds for me.

    I think the other thing that hasn’t been highlighted is that 30 seconds or even a minute in some cases is actually way quicker than some of the conversations that referees and assistant referees (Linos) have had in the past, so while some decisions are slowed down by VAR, some are actually sped up. And, we actually get more correct calls.

    Also, this will benefit smaller clubs like ourselves in terms of levelling the playing field because it’s been proven in other sports when first introducing video technology, that subconsciously officials do tend to favour the home crowd (particularly on close calls where they are not 100% sure themselves), and more so the bigger that the crowd is.
     
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  7. ChilcoSaint

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    The key thing with all 3 of those sports is that there are natural pauses in play which occur very frequently. In rugby, the TMO is in communication with the referee about things that have happened which might need a closer look, but only ever when play has stopped anyway. In tennis and cricket, reviews are mostly appeals by players, and are limited in number, although reviews are only lost if the appeal isn’t upheld.

    Football doesn’t have the regular, frequent, natural pauses that the other sports have, and a way has to be found of using video technology without ruining the non-stop nature of a great sport.
     
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  8. StJabbo1

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    Evolution has to be the way, patience will be the virtue we'll need, not so easy in the passion of a match, passions that may have been lubricated with a pre match beer or two.
     
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    My wife says ten seconds isn’t long enough. :emoticon-0106-cryin
     
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  10. StJabbo1

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    Once a King always a King, once a night enough!
     
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  11. fatletiss

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    I tell my wife that if 7 seconds is long enough for Shane, it’s enough for her!
     
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    There are plenty of natural pauses when a Colin ****er team are playing away against a more talented team...:emoticon-0110-tongu
    Like I said before, the pauses don't really bother me that much and Football has come a long way as a spectacle since the back pass rule to the GK came in.
     
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    V.A.R My Lord
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    Oh Lo-rd V.A.R
     
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  14. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    Same here, and it usually doesn't take that long, and will only ever improve with time. And there's so much other **** that it will do away with that actually IS ruining football, that I'm happy it's here. Wrestling at corners, gone; diving, gone; far less on pitch cheating. And there will be far more accurate off-side decisions.
    At the moment the off-sides seem to be what is taking time, but there's so much money in football now that the program to instantly check it won;t be olong in coming. We can put a object through the eye of a needle from 2billion miles away, and photograph a gnat's arse from orbit, FFS, this is piss easy by comparison. The longer we have the technology in effect the less obtrusive it will become, a few years from now people probably won't even know it's there.
     
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    That's exactly how I see it too Ern, things will evolve naturally as they have since the day that the game was invented. I bet they moaned when the semi-circle penalty area was replaced by the 18 yard box.
     
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  16. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    well, since anything was invented really.

    Plus it takes far less time than a Burnley goal-kick, or a medical break because someone's head was brushed by the sleeve of an opposing player.
     
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    Or a player to leave the pitch after being substituted tactically in the dying embers of a match with his team hanging on to a win/draw.
     
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    To be fair, they have changed that rule now so the player going off can leave the pitch at any point.
     
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    Have you seen how long we take over throw ins?
    Burnley crowd were complaining about it before we had even reached half time.
     
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  20. ChilcoSaint

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    You could read Yan Valery’s mind from his expression on Saturday, every time he was taking a throw in he was thinking (probably in French) “FFS somebody, show for this!”
     
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