The var thread

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st_brendy said:
It's possible that I might eventually reach that stage, I don't know. For me I think it's a case of waiting and watching for a couple of years, to see how things go. I've always suspected that the final version of VAR will look different to what we first experience.

For example, I could certainly see a incident in a big match at some point involving a second yellow card (either wrongly being given, or wrongly being not given). And thereafter it becomes a big topic of conversation as to why VAR is used for straight reds, but not second yellows.
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If you argue for VAR to review second yellows, shouldn’t you also argue it’s use for any yellow?
VAR proving that the second yellow was correct doesn’t prevent an injustice if the first yellow was given in error. It still ends with a red card.
I didn’t think Romeu should have been carded Saturday, but he was (referee’s interpretation) and, IMO, his having to hold back was part of the reason why Liverpool took total control of the second half. It was also, potentially, the reason he was subbed off, to save him from receiving a second yellow.
 
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Another example that VAR will eventually be able to perform - to prove or disprove that old adage that decisions even themselves out over a season. Here's my prediction [should it ever be studied], it will be proven overwhelmingly that good/bad decisions DON'T even themselves out over a season for a club. Indeed, some clubs may find that they've won a cup, or a championship, or bettered their league standing, or worsened it, or indeed been relegated over one or more outstandingly bad decisions that were crucial.

Let's give one striking example - Saints score a goal early in a game. It is given offside. They go on to lose the League Cup Final 3-2 to ManU. With even the opposition manager saying that Saints had been extremely hard done by. Who knows if that goal ahd stood whether Saints would have gone on to win? And if Southampton had won that Cup Final, what players that Saints were pursuing at the time might have said Yes, rather than No. Which potential sponsors might have said yes. And the list could go on of the repercussions, but for an incorrect decision early in a cup final game just a few years ago.

Now that bad decision could have been 'evened out' by a decision that went Saints way during a league match, let's say, in which Saints gained a free-kick which came to nothing, when there was no foul anyway.
I have tended to find that pundits and ex-players who pursue this silly idea that 'decisions even themselves out over a season' are either ex-winners of cups and championships or they are people who admire them. Either way, they haven't thought deeply enough about the subject. And this is why correct decisions and fairer refereeing is so important.
 
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I've never bought the things even out thing either tbf and for that reason, look at City this weekend, arguably cost two points by a blatant penalty being missed but if they get theirs back when their 5-0 up v Norwich then they're still potentially two points down due to a poor decision.

You're still ignoring the fact that var won't eliminate that situation, would you feel better if we we lost a cup final to a shocker of a decision just because they've re-watched it a few times? I certainly wouldn't.
 
This backs up what libby was saying, it gets just as many wrong decisions as before.

Maybe it should be used for just offsides, and that's it.
 
Would they have still reviewed it if Bournemouth didn't kick it out of play? No idea why they did that.
 
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