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The var thread

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Libby, Aug 6, 2019.

  1. San Tejón

    San Tejón Well-Known Member

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    If you argue for VAR to review second yellows, shouldn’t you also argue it’s use for any yellow?
    VAR proving that the second yellow was correct doesn’t prevent an injustice if the first yellow was given in error. It still ends with a red card.
    I didn’t think Romeu should have been carded Saturday, but he was (referee’s interpretation) and, IMO, his having to hold back was part of the reason why Liverpool took total control of the second half. It was also, potentially, the reason he was subbed off, to save him from receiving a second yellow.
     
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  2. thereisonlyoneno7

    thereisonlyoneno7 Well-Known Member

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    VAR could easily review first yellows, without halting play. The ref gives a yellow, the VAR people review it and in the next stoppage it is announced that it has been revoked if need be. No stop in play, the correct decision.

    That is an example of using VAR for the good of the game.
     
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  3. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Another example that VAR will eventually be able to perform - to prove or disprove that old adage that decisions even themselves out over a season. Here's my prediction [should it ever be studied], it will be proven overwhelmingly that good/bad decisions DON'T even themselves out over a season for a club. Indeed, some clubs may find that they've won a cup, or a championship, or bettered their league standing, or worsened it, or indeed been relegated over one or more outstandingly bad decisions that were crucial.

    Let's give one striking example - Saints score a goal early in a game. It is given offside. They go on to lose the League Cup Final 3-2 to ManU. With even the opposition manager saying that Saints had been extremely hard done by. Who knows if that goal ahd stood whether Saints would have gone on to win? And if Southampton had won that Cup Final, what players that Saints were pursuing at the time might have said Yes, rather than No. Which potential sponsors might have said yes. And the list could go on of the repercussions, but for an incorrect decision early in a cup final game just a few years ago.

    Now that bad decision could have been 'evened out' by a decision that went Saints way during a league match, let's say, in which Saints gained a free-kick which came to nothing, when there was no foul anyway.
    I have tended to find that pundits and ex-players who pursue this silly idea that 'decisions even themselves out over a season' are either ex-winners of cups and championships or they are people who admire them. Either way, they haven't thought deeply enough about the subject. And this is why correct decisions and fairer refereeing is so important.
     
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  4. Libby

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    I've never bought the things even out thing either tbf and for that reason, look at City this weekend, arguably cost two points by a blatant penalty being missed but if they get theirs back when their 5-0 up v Norwich then they're still potentially two points down due to a poor decision.

    You're still ignoring the fact that var won't eliminate that situation, would you feel better if we we lost a cup final to a shocker of a decision just because they've re-watched it a few times? I certainly wouldn't.
     
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  5. thereisonlyoneno7

    thereisonlyoneno7 Well-Known Member

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    Three weeks in and going ok?
     
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  6. ----HistoryRepeating----

    ----HistoryRepeating---- Well-Known Member

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    See, I always said var was a good thing & would see us alright! <laugh>

    Bollocks did I.......still don't like it but happy with it today.
     
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  7. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    How did city not get a pen there?

    Ridiculous from var
     
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  8. tomw24

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    Yeah, that should have been a pen.
     
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  9. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    yeah, I don't get that, missed the ball and clearly stood on his foot.
     
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  10. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    This backs up what libby was saying, it gets just as many wrong decisions as before.

    Maybe it should be used for just offsides, and that's it.
     
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  11. Libby

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    For penalties etc. they seem too scared to overturn the refs decision.

    What's the ****ing point then.
     
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  12. RSS

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    VAR wants Liverpool to win the league...:bandit:
     
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  13. Libby

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    I notice United have had a penalty in every PL game so far :bandit:
     
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  14. thereisonlyoneno7

    thereisonlyoneno7 Well-Known Member

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    Thing is they need 2 or 3 just to score one <laugh>
     
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  15. Saints Fan4Life

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    I was thinking exactly the same.
     
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  16. Libby

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    Would they have still reviewed it if Bournemouth didn't kick it out of play? No idea why they did that.
     
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  17. ----HistoryRepeating----

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    If I were the coach, I'd tell them;
    'NEVER let the ball go dead if there's a decision to be made.'
    If you get the the 20 sec mark, you may well get away with it.
     
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  18. Che’s Godlike Thighs

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    How was that not a pen for Kane?
     
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  19. SaintsForTheWin

    SaintsForTheWin Any holes a goal

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    No idea. So clear, even the Arsenal fan, Smith thought it was a penalty <laugh>
     
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  20. Saintmagic

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    For once I agree with Souness :emoticon-0104-surpr the Kane incident was not a penalty
     
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