Bloody hell scientific calculator brains, you've just fried my abacus brains If we were Terminators fighting, you'd be the the advanced model and I'd be the one still using wheels for transport <ninjasmilie>
Excellent point... I feel every time we just get a little close to something oh I dunno like 4th, like cup semis.... Like Cl groups this mentality comes out.... Rodgers keeps on and on and on and on about big club and worldwide and all this ego stuff and we always fail Why oh why can't we simply say we want deep down so badly to be the best, we are not though, the past is irrelevant to this desire no and for the future so we have to work all the harder to achieve When an fa cup semi is blown by being favourites, turning up with the same old, not turning the effort levels right up you can tell Then Rodgers blames the players mentality.... We cannot know right now how he talked to them or at them and what he told them to do. Maybe someone will tell us one day but right now looking from the outside it seems the ego of big club has seeped firmly into Rodgers The one thing you can say about the greed of Ferguson is he applied it to all things, rock of Gibraltar in personal dealings, his son in management but most of all at Utd it was pure desire and work every day. There was no entitlement and any player showing it got the boot... In the eyebrow too. Utd success was built on desire and humility to know that to be the best you had to give the best effort, the best commitment day by day and be the best player you could be. Not just the most talented on swanning round thinking you are it
add corinthians into it you mean? hoenstly you know when nobody is interested i nthe the football currently when this stuff comes out a) title is decided b) top 4 is decided c) europe has seen england humiliated d) nobody really cares about the bottom 3 yet. they are all so muck that until newcastle are caught up to peoepl are/were assuming leicester, qpr and some other small club go down e.) sadly nobody seems to give a **** about fa cup
Nah, I reckon you are getting Fergie's traits and MUFC mixed up, for 24 years of the last 50(thread theme)Utd weren't what they are today and did not have the philosophy you mentioned. The key to their success was the manager, and the key to his success was being given the time to build the club his way, but Utd under O'Farrell, McGuiness, Docherty, Sexton and Atkinson Utd were a combination of relegation fodder, nearly men, overhyped and just a decent cup team, their last 3 managers)including Giggs's mini tenure)have a mixture of not very good in cup comps, all over the place tactically, and recently improved on last season to a probable top 4 place. Fergie was English football's last successful old school type of manager and there's not a chance of another manager being at a club as long(Wenger currently in his 19yr at Arsenal probably won't be there for another 7). Unless of course you were talking about the football that was invented in 1992 onwards. Rodgers and his successors will never be given 26yrs at LFC but they could lay the foundations by leaving the traits I quoted in your post because I agree on their importance and their part in any sustained success.
I think what MITO got right was that players of big teams swanning around thinking they've got it made and expect a victory just for turning up are in for a massive disappointment. Like the mancs found to their costs last season and now City, you need to work for every damn point. No one is going to give the points just because you are City, United or Liverpool. Or you were last season's champions or runners up. You are starting from scratch with every match and it is 11 agianst 11 and who want the points more. It is not only having the best players (good players are crucial of course ) but all working together with the manager as a team to win matches. You can't do it with average players, and you can't do it with an average manager who is overawed by big games and tactically outfoxed by a more astute manager.
Players will only get like that if you let them. Look how hard Chelsea work. The manager has to motivate them. look how hard Barca worked under Pep, great players who worked their arses off. If salaries were performance rating based, they'd be working harder for sure too.
