Go speak to the people actually on the street mate, you will learn more than you do from an internet forum.
Why so aggressive? I gave some anecdotes sure but it's not just based on those. It was a decent discussion
@thefanwithnoname Dont worry about it, this is one of those topics that people get overly emotional about. I too, have had enough of the homelessness in my city, especially since our council initiated a Homeless Reduction act at the beginning of the year. Every homeless person was offered a place in sheltered accommodation, be it bedsits, YMCA, shared accommodation, whatever, they were all offered roofs. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-43319338 The only ones who were turned away were ones who were found to be on drink or drugs. So now, I know that if I see a homeless person in MK, they either turned the offer down (ie Mentally ill) or are on drugs. That is not to say that those that are on drugs or are mentally ill dont deserve a second chance, but that they need help in a different way than regular homeless people.
Some of that is from centre point. Iirc correctly they class homelessness as not not having permanent accommodation. So a woman in a refugee is homeless, if you see what I mean rough sleeping and homelessness means different things in that context
No I get that mate and @Archers Road is obviously very passionate on the topic an di respect that. However he never got personal
Tbph mate, and absolutely no disrespect but your words don't come across as someone who has worked first hand with homeless people. I gave one good reason earlier and it's nothing to do with adfordable housing but a break down of the family network, affordable housing is not going to help a penniless person, unless you home them for free Im not suggesting people didn't sometimes put themselves in the situation but that's life, they need help not judgement.
Maybe I should have highlighted this bit: Sixty-three percent (7,728) of unmet requests were for housing. Emergency shelter and transitional housing continue to be the most urgent unmet needs for domestic violence survivors. So where do they go? Back to the abuse or on the streets. They seem to be their only two options.
The lack of affordable housing was in a report not my view And I'm not suggesting my view is 100% the right view it's just my view Rough sleeping is terrible no matter how you look at it and I'm not belittling it
Stop reading the reports mate. Go down town and ask them. Your community challenge for the day btw remember to leave a donation for their kindness in letting you delve into their life.
Some absolute ****e been posted in here. Food banks are being overrun due to UC - fact. Over 28% of food bank users are UC claimants in work ffs. The delays in the system, means that people go for weeks without a penny and unless they’ve got family or friends to bail them out during that period are forced into resorting to food banks. You need a referral and a voucher to get access to a food bank and these are issued after your need has been assessed. Zero hours contracts and the gig economy mean that people’s income can vary wildly beyond a persons direct control. UC isn’t flexible enough to cope with this and changes to payments take an age to sort, therefore people are left unable to put food on their tables on occasion. This is what we’ve become. One of the top 10 economies on the planet and we’ve ended up with the disparity between the top earners in this country and those at the opposite end of the spectrum has become a chasm since the World wide crash and 8 years of Tory austerity. The majority of working people in this country are 2 paydays away from being penniless.
Have to say I don't know about that. My understanding has been that once DV is highlighted the person gets emergency accommodation. Even if that's a travel Lodge etc The only ****ty thing I found there was for immigrants who didn't fit the rules.
This is the reason I've reacted the way I did, although I'm too passionate about the subject. He always does this though, no matter what the subject he has some personal experience which trumps everyone else's opinion. It's usually to push his own agenda too and he won't ever accept any leeway. I know most others haven't but I worked him out long ago the snivelling little turd.
Focusing on wage disparity is a complete waste of time. The reason the gap between the higest and lowest paid is getting bigger, is not so much because the poorer are getting poorer (though they are), but because the richer are getting so much richer. Focusing on fixing poverty is a good thing, trying to fix wage disparity inevitably means you will have the take money from people and give it to others, thats called theft.
I didn't say I agreed with the reports. It was in response to Stan and the DV figures I work with Arch now and again and the Lou macari centre, voluntarily I may add so do get to hear people stories Interesting thing I picked up (and yes this is an anecdote) that young people who are homeless are not always from broken homes. Many are from affluent backgrounds and some have let that affluence affect them with regards to drugs and alcohol and spiralled
