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The Tories have wrecked healthcare across Europe not just the UK

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by QuarterMoonII, Jan 9, 2023.

  1. Mick O'Toon

    Mick O'Toon Well-Known Member

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    4th of feb and starting with a bang:
    Wales V Ireland
    England v Scotland
    Italy v France
    I'm going to Newcastle v W Ham on the 4th,rugby 2.15,Toon match 5.30!!!
     
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    monacoger POTY 2021

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    Oooooooft you'll be hoping you aren't on the top tier at SJP or you won't make it up the steps after drinking watching the rugby
     
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  3. Mick O'Toon

    Mick O'Toon Well-Known Member

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    If I make it to the ground!
     
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  4. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    It's not free you mong. We pay national insurance to pay for it.

    National insurance CONTRIBUTIONS.

    FFS!
     
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  5. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    The NHS is being set up by the Tories to fail. The creeping privatisation has already started. They have did the same with every other national asset they sold for peanuts to their pals.

    The Government isn't the state. The people are the state. So when it's called state owned, we own it. You've been brainwashed into thinking public is bad and private is good by the privateers.
     
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    Well that's just ruined my day.
     
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    Three dead certs = starting with a bang?
     
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  9. stopmeandslapme

    stopmeandslapme Well-Known Member

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    National Insurance is just tax, all goes into the Treasury pot. Your contributions do determine what benefits you may be able to claim.
     
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  10. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    Aye!

    So why did the Tories just hike national insurance contributions to finance English social care?
     
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    stopmeandslapme Well-Known Member

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    Does National Insurance all go to healthcare and social care and can't be used for anything else? No. They raised a tax claiming it was to pay for something specific, hoping that would prove to be palatable.
     
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  12. Mick O'Toon

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    Yes and all away wins.
     
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    Toby GC's Life Coach

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  14. QuarterMoonII

    QuarterMoonII Economist

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    Further evidence of just how crap the education system is in Scotland: “They have did the same

    If anybody is looking for evidence of brainwashing, they really only have to look at the Scottish Nationalists. The public education system turning out people who cannot even manage to write in English but can find the SNP box on a ballot paper.

    Just remind us who was building all those hospitals and schools funded by terribly badly negotiated PFI contracts when Gordon Brown was Chancellor and then PM for New Labour between 1997 and 2010. The private sector employs all the best people and the public sector takes the rest. This is why contracts for public sector work massively favour the private sector contractors. Want a new light bulb at your hospital? That will be £120 just as soon as our man can get round there with his mate to hold the step ladder.
     
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  15. QuarterMoonII

    QuarterMoonII Economist

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    There is no hypothecation in the tax system. National Insurance is just another tax. It all goes in the same pot and is spent according to however much budget each government department is granted.

    Most idiots still think that their National Insurance contributions are squirreled away in some sort of pension until they retire, when in fact that money is being used today to pay existing pensioners. When you retire at some date in the future, the workers of that day will be paying your pension. Of course that presents a serious funding issue going forward as pensioners continue to outnumber workers.

    Since the NHS swallows up almost half of all spending, more of the funding comes from income tax and other taxes that have the word tax in their name than comes from National Insurance.

    When your council tax bill rises by five per cent in April most of that will be because the government is allowing local councils to put up bills to fund extra social care provision. Having sacked many social care workers during the pandemic for refusing to comply with vaccination mandates, perhaps they will allow some of them back into their jobs given the national shortage of workers in the sector.
     
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    **** off you boring twat.
     
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  17. QuarterMoonII

    QuarterMoonII Economist

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    <doh> Facts generally are boring to brain dead crazed Lefties.

    Any sailors picked you up yet or are you now leaning on that wall in the freezing cold? Your twat must be pretty hard and crusty.
     
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    Toley Fart not606's best fighter

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    <laugh>
     
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