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There is already loads of material on You Tube. Elon Musk is master of marketing.

 

He's also a gobshite and a loose cannon - and is now looking at a very expensive coutt case for accusing the Thai cave rescuers paedos....All because they ridiculed his rescue submarine idea...

Elon Musk sued for libel by British Thai cave rescuer

• 17 September 2018

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Image captionMr Musk (R) alleged that British diver Mr Unsworth (L) had a "child bride"
A British cave diver is suing tech billionaire Elon Musk for defamation after his repeated claims the diver is a child abuser.

Vernon Unsworth helped with the rescue of 12 Thai teenagers from a flooded cave in July.

Mr Musk has made several accusations against Mr Unsworth without evidence, including that he was a "child rapist".

The lawsuit seeks $75,000 (£57,000) in compensation and an injunction against Mr Musk to stop further allegations.

The filing also says Mr Unsworth is seeking "punitive damages" as well as the compensation, "to punish him for his wrongdoing and deter him from repeating such heinous conduct".

It says Mr Musk sometimes used his Twitter account and emails to "publish to the world false and defamatory accusations" against the Briton.

His account had over 22.5 million followers during this time, the filing states.

The South African-born head of Tesla previously tweeted it was "strange he hasn't sued me" when Mr Unsworth said he was considering legal action.

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Mr Unsworth filed the suit in California. A separate suit will follow in London, the filing says.

"Musk's influence and wealth cannot convert his lies into truth or protect him from accountability for his wrongdoing in a court of law," Mr Unsworth's US attorney, L Lin Wood, said.

How defamation works in the US
by Clive Coleman, BBC legal correspondent

The first amendment of the United States Constitution which protects free speech makes defamation a challenging legal action to bring.

A plaintiff (the person bringing the case) has to prove the statement made about them is false and that it has caused them material harm.

However, the toughest hurdle is that if the person bringing the case is regarded as a public figure - and 'public figure' is given a pretty wide interpretation - it has to be proved that the defendant acted maliciously.

In other words that the person making the statement knew it to be false and went on to make it.

Another way of putting it would be that it must be proved that the defendant knowingly lied with the intention of harming the plaintiff.

The pair first clashed over Mr Musk's offer of a mini-submarine to help with the cave rescue.

The entrepreneur posted footage of the vehicle on Twitter and suggested it could be used to help save the trapped teens.

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Mr Unsworth told CNN that the submarine was "just a PR stunt [that] had absolutely no chance of working" and said Mr Musk could "stick his submarine where it hurts".

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The Tesla founder responded with a series of tweets accusing Mr Unsworth of paedophilia.

Although he later deleted the tweets and offered an apology to the diver, Mr Musk reignited the row earlier this month.

An email to Buzzfeed reporter Ryan Macincluded the claim the Briton was a "child rapist", imploring the reporter to "find out what's actually going on" and suggesting the diver took no part in the cave rescue.

The billionaire also said he hoped Mr Unsworth would sue him.

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Image captionMr Unsworth, in orange, provided information for the rescue
Mr Unsworth did not take part in the dives but had previously explored the cave complex extensively.

He knew about the raised ledge known as Pattaya Beach where the boys and their football coach could have sought shelter, travelled into the caves shortly after they went missing and called in the two expert British divers who eventually found the trapped group.

Several divers told Buzzfeed that he had worked continuously on the rescue. "He was pivotal to the entire operation," said British diver Rick Stanton.

 

The above situation is clearly “sour grapes” and was totally unnecessary and spiteful.

However, he is again “in the news” and it may be difficult to to win the case in a US law court.

Whatever one thinks of Elon Musk, as a person, he has developed some advanced engineering products and is able to gain the attention of the world media. However the key product he is marketing is “Elon Musk”.

 

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240 Beans

Love it Kiwi

 

The Fermi paradox, or Fermi's paradox, named after physicist Enrico Fermi, is the apparent contradiction between the lack of evidence and high probability estimates[1] for the existence of extraterrestrial civilizations.[2] The basic points of the argument, made by physicists Enrico Fermi (1901–1954) and Michael H. Hart (born 1932), are:

• There are billions of stars in the galaxy that are similar to the Sun,[3][4] and many of these stars are billions of years older than the Solar system.[5][6]
• With high probability, some of these stars have Earth-like planets,[7][8] and if the Earth is typical, some may have developed intelligent life.
• Some of these civilizations may have developed interstellar travel, a step the Earth is investigating now.
• Even at the slow pace of currently envisioned interstellar travel, the Milky Way galaxy could be completely traversed in a few million years.[9]

According to this line of reasoning, the Earth should have already been visited by extraterrestrial aliens. In an informal conversation, Fermi noted no convincing evidence of this, leading him to ask, "Where is everybody?"[10][11] There have been many attempts to explain the Fermi paradox,[12][13] primarily either suggesting that intelligent extraterrestrial life is extremely rare or proposing reasons that such civilizations have not contacted or visited Earth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

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An interesting analysis into the recent tsunami at the Sulawesi island:

Why Sulawesi's tsunami is puzzling scientists.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-45711190

 

Great for medicine and diversity. It is amazing the she is only the third ever woman winner.

First woman Physics Nobel winner in 55 years.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-45655151

 

Same-sex mice have babies

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-45801043

 

Interesting documentary on BBC2 last night about sleep patterns and our internal body clock....

Horizon, 2018: 9. Body Clock: What Makes Us Tick?: www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0bn5ys4 via @bbciplayer

Horizon2018: 9. Body Clock: What Makes Us Tick?

We all have a biological clock ticking away inside us that governs our daily rhythms. This affects our health as much as our diet and whether we exercise. So what can we do to manage this internal clock better?

To find out, evolutionary biologist Ella Al-Shamahi locks former commando Aldo Kane in an abandoned nuclear bunker with no way of telling the time - for ten days. Monitored around the clock by a team of scientists, he carries out a barrage of tests to uncover exactly what makes our body clock tick.

Above ground, Ella meets two time-starved couples to test the latest thinking on how we can manage our body clocks better. In trying to improve their sleep, and their lives, she uncovers practical advice that we can all take on board. Studies on shift workers show that regularly disrupting our sleep makes us more at risk of diabetes, heart disease and even cancer. So getting to grips with our biological clock couldn't be more important.

 

Just a tad scary.

Didn't the inventors ever watch Arnie as The Terminator?!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-45841771/humanoid-rescue-robot-learns-parkour

 

Possibly should have gone on the geek thread. Please move. Apologies.

 

Also in the news this week, a robot to be interviewed by MPs!

Take me to your leader! MPs to quiz robot

• 11 October 2018

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A robot is to be questioned by a panel of MPs in what they are claiming is a first for UK democracy (regular viewers of Parliament may beg to differ).

Pepper - "a culturally aware" robot - was designed to assist with the care of older people.

But next Tuesday she will be assisting members of the education select committee understand the impact of artificial intelligence.

The committee will also quiz human experts during the session.

Pepper - who is part of an international research project funded by the EU and the Japanese government - is likely to be the star turn.

The committee will hear about her work with students at Middlesex University, including a project involving teaching primary school children.

After a demonstration by Pepper, the MPs will look at how robots can be used to support learning and how robotics will transform the workplace and classroom of the future.

 

Artificial intelligence could well kill off man kind before anything else.

 

Man is doing a pretty passable job of that already...

 

Is climate change making hurricanes worse?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42251921

 

I am sure such farming of meat food will develop.

Would you eat slaughter-free meat?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45865403