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The test of a fan

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by remembercolinlee, Nov 18, 2012.

  1. Spurf

    Spurf Thread Mover Forum Moderator

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    I've seen the sheep and their reaction to the appointment of AVB. They're frightened as they usually are when something new appears on the horizon, so they huddle together and start baying. Hhhhaaarrryyy! Hhhaaarrryyy!

    Baaa!
     
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  3. Blackboots

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    This has won the day.
     
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  4. Toela65

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    THIS. This is your problem. There too many of these Spurs fans who think this is the way to behave in regards to AVB.

    Liverpool fans used to be similar until, mainly by observing Chelsea but realising we didn't have Roman and his oil money, we realised changiing Managers every time theres a bad run of results is toxic to a club.

    We've realised now that Managers need a fair shake. They need at LEAST 2-3 seasons, and to be well backed financially to bring their own players in before you can deem them a failure and move on.

    Changing Manager every half season or season is a one-way ticket down the league if you have got a sugar daddy.

    Wanted to say fair play to the OP in particular for calling out the plastics and showing how it should be done and fair play to the other posters who shared his sentiments.

    Patience and support is the only way without a King's ransom.
     
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  5. totsfan

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    this thread started off alright,but all of a sudden there's a lot of Pony being spouted
     
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  6. Roo

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    "@SkySportsNews: Sky Sports News understands Roberto Di Matteo expects to lose his job at Chelsea after Champions League defeat to Juventus. More on #SSN"


    Say what u want about AVB and him not being the "right man"... Whatever, it's boring.

    As Toela says, unless there's a sugar daddy, changing manager regularly doesn't work.

    Just look at the quote from twitter above. So it looks like Chelsea will have ANOTHER new boss. - But there's an example of having a sugar daddy and how having a sugar daddy still doesn't necessarily work.

    What's that now.. 8 managers in as many years?

    We might think that things aren't great for us at the moment, but that managerial situation is a joke.

    So why not just get behind our manager? Let him have a time period free of injuries and some of the players he wants at the club. Give him time to implement his ideas with those new faces and those back from injury.

    AVB wouldnt have been my first choice, but he's our boss and he should be given a fair chance.

    This isn't a competition of claiming who predicted what correctly, or "I told you so".

    Get behind your manager!
     
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  7. totsfan

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    This <ok>
     
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  8. Spurf

    Spurf Thread Mover Forum Moderator

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    We should keep a perspective on these things as there are far more important matters that should concern us more.

    For example: http://justiceforwilliamgage.webs.com/LoveWins.pdf

    EDIT: This is not a religious tract btw, it's about a man convicted of a murder that he did not commit. This is his story written in jail and smuggled out for the world to read.

    Interesting to note that this link has now been blocked, we are being watched!
     
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  9. SpursDisciple

    SpursDisciple Booking: Mod abuse - overturned on appeal Forum Moderator

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    Actually HIAG, you are wrong on this. I fought an almost lone campaign on your behalf on the Arsenal board. Somewhere on here you criticised the Arsenal mods (rightly) for banning you and said "someone" had even defended you, saying that what HIAG writes obviously goes over the Arsenal mods head. You didn't credit who it was that said that, but in case you've forgotten it was me. Spent over half an hour explaining how badly it reflected on them to maintain the ban on you. Me again. Again, supporting the manager does not make anyone a sheep and you need to learn to disagree with people without resorting to name calling.

    Nobody was more upset at Harry's sacking than me (I was HarrysDisciple for God's sake) but once it was done and dusted we move on. AVB is our manager now and I wish him all the best. That doesn't mean he is immune from criticism - I share some concerns - but what, IMO, you cannot say is that people who are on his side are mentally defective. And further they are the same people who would have glossed over German anti-semitism and imperialism, on a TOTTENHAM BOARD, that is wrong. You are known (universally) as one who goes OTT. I'd suggest you keep this for mousers, chavs and goons for the most part.
     
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  10. notsosmartspur

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    Surprised at the non humourous use of Adolf as a jibe from one spur to another/others :(. I'm sure Hiag will edit that. :)

    I remain firmly on the fence re AVB and will do till a run of games with everyone fit. Just because I highlight errors doesn't mean I'm 100% anti and want him sacked. I was negative toward Bale yesterday, doesn't mean I want him sold.
     
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  11. Roo

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    We all do Notso, but there's a difference between highlighting mistakes which can be learnt from (which many of us point out including you and I), as opposed to just being damn right ridiculous at such an early stage <ok>
     
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  12. SpursDisciple

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    Just to be clear, it is not justified criticism of AVB I objected to, it was the jibe at a fellow Spurs fan (RCL in this case) and by implication many others of us, that was too much for me. I like and enjoy HIAGs posts, but he went too far last night in my opinion.
     
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  13. remembercolinlee

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    Wow .... where to start?

    1) Hitler fans???????

    2) You started a thread called AVB is a Clown....it's your right...this was my response... why are you behave so rudely to some one who disagrees with you?

    3) I did not want AVB, I think he is the wrong person for us...I have stated this on numerous threads but the point of this post was simply to state that this was a knee jerk plastic response...the booing, demands to sack him etc.
    I mentioned the criticisms were fair enough but the over reactions were a joke.

    4) I note with interest that you refused to comment on the similarity I drew with Keith Burkinshaws early years with us and how our 2nd most successful manager in our entire history would never have survived if our fans behaved like this back then.

    5) I do not expect anyone to think I am right and am fine for people to openly criticise me and I even made fun of myself at the end with my comment re old man rant over.

    6) You have not debated in this thread, you have behaved like every other keyboard warrior on these boards.

    7) I ain't a wum...I am respectful to all spurs fans ... if you don't agree with me fine but to refer to me as a hitler or assume you have some god given right to rude and disrespectful to a fellow spur who has never behaved poorly to you is beyond a joke. You seem to take pride in your ability to be obnoxious when it suits you. If you can't be respectful and polite to me then don't respond ... after this I'll be sure never to pollute your threads with my hitlerite poison.

    Sorry to anyone else who feels they have wasted their time reading this
     
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  14. No Kane No Gain

    No Kane No Gain Well-Known Member

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    I think you've been perfectly reasonable there RCL <ok>

    HIAG certainly doesn't tend to sit on the fence with his views though. One minute it's AVB's mighty juggernaut and the next it's AVB's circus of clowns.
     
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  15. Spurf

    Spurf Thread Mover Forum Moderator

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    I don't think you need take HIAG's comment too seriously RCL he tends to go over the top which ever way he decides to pitch it.

    I think you have answered him very effectively and I'm sure he will take your points on board. <ok>
     
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  16. NSIS

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    Yes, he can be a bit excitable. I may be entirely wrong about this, but perhaps last night was more to do with something he drank!
     
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  17. SpursDisciple

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    I think you are right. That rant on the wrong thread was a clue!
     
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  18. I didn't start my "AVB is a clown" thread to enter into any debate. My mind is fairly well made up on the subject. That others would debate the topic was highly likely. Also, when I started the thread, I knew I was doing so against the grain of what most supporters on this board felt, and that my view would be controversial for that reason. It is unfortunate that some of you should seek to call into question my loyalty to club, which is a fairly despicable thing to say, actually. To suggest, further, that by calling into question AVB's ability to manage our club, I am against the "team" is, quite frankly, pathetic.

    I am going to write no more on this subject, because I cannot see that any good can come of it, and I would rather not fall out further with some of you.
     
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  19. I thank you for that, SD. Please, don't think that I am not grateful to you for your support on that issue. Our differences over this particular (and, it must be said) highly emotive issue must not detract from the fact that I respect you for your honesty and integrity.
     
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  20. notsosmartspur

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    Hiag, forgive me for butting in, but its not your opinion that the last half page of comments are about, you are allowed your opinion as always here. The point of contention is your use of Hitler to the fan/s of a Jewish club you support!!! Of all the metaphors you could use.... <whistle>....penny dropped yet?
     
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