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The team that should be starting

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  1. luvgonzo

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    Disagree, Sakho has a tenancy to follow his man into midfield leaving a hole in behind if Moreno is playing and looking to push on and the 2nd CB hasn't the brains to cover then it's a huge weakness.
     
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  2. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    Yes he does but the important thing is that he wins the balls more often than not. Compare that to Lovren who will push up, not win the ball and we're then exposed.
     
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  3. luvgonzo

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    Indeed he does a CB who can control a back four is the dream for us at the moment. Gomez is too young to do this at the moment but the fact that a lot would put Gomez and Sakho as the starting pair speaks volumes.
     
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    Unfortunately when he gives the ball away (like he did on Sunday for the goal) who's there to cover him?
     
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  5. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    Sakho is the leader in the team and for the back line - he was constantly talking to everyone around him.

    I would definitely play Gomez at RCB because he will make no more mistakes than Skrtel.
     
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  6. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    We have to play with risks or else we can continue to play Gomez at left back and not attack that flank. Without Moreno bombing forward, we would have had nothing from that game. But the fact that Sakho's error was the only one during that game despite Moreno starting higher, speaks volumes and shows he can handle it.

    Alternatively, as mentioned, we can play Gomez a lot deeper and completely negate the attack.
     
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  7. The artist JerryChristmas

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    No evidence for this whatsoever.
     
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    He talks and motivates but he's not an organiser or a thinker but a leader yes, Gomez I think will be that communicator but it would be a risk sticking him in there but he certainly reads the game well and that's what we need.

    I agree in that once we have that communicator play Moreno, as the 2 centre backs will work well together and cover any holes at this point it's carnage with Skrtel, Lovren or Sakho in that pairing none of them suit the other.

    I would stick my neck out and go Gomez Sakho though, nothing to lose at this point.
     
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    Love the way you slate Skrtel for mistakes in one post and excuse Sakho in the very next one :grin: The fact is Sakho was excellent on Sunday yet still had that lapse in concentration that proved so costly (Ming equally guilty too in fairness)....exactly the sort of thing you'd jump all over Skrtel for.
     
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  10. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    Amazing that regardless of whether or not we put Sakho or Lovren in, our defence is still ****. But there's always one fixture in that defence who is never questioned.

    And I did pull up Sakho on his mistake. Difference is, he's make fewer mistakes compared to the rest of the defence. But of course, let's get rid of the defender who makes the least mistakes. <ok>
     
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    No evidence of what - Sakho being a leader or Gomez making less mistakes than Skrtel?
     
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    Bentbeak as done his hammy so e won' be starting for a while
     
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  13. TBF, there is no evidence of either but that's more down to the lack of a chance of proving those credentials. Sakho's been a leader elsewhere and Gomez looks solid at LB but neither have done what you (and I) suggest at Liverpool yet.
     
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  14. Milk not bear jizz

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    But he has a pretty face in his makeup adverts.
     
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  15. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    I respectfully disagree...
     
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  16. You disagree with facts? Brilliant <laugh>
     
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  17. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    What facts? I've seen Sakho talk and point to those around him all game on several occasions.

    Now compare to Milner who does absolutely nothing, even when we're losing. Perhaps our definition of leadership differs - perhaps merely running around and working hard without contributing on the ball is the sign of a good captain?

    And Gomez has made no more mistakes than Skrtel this season and that's even playing in s completely different position.

    So I reiterate, I rather play Gomez at RCB because he won't do any worse than Skrtel but at least won't drag the line deep.
     
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    Is Rodgers now the rogue landlord then? :bandit:
     
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  19. I saw Balotelli talk and point whilst wearing a Liverpool shirt, does that make him a leader too? <doh>

    Why you mentioned Milner is beyond me, he's not a good captain.

    Leading by example and organising a team is a sign of a leader. Talking and pointing but the defence remaining **** isn't good leadership IMO.

    You can reiterate all you want, if you gave a milisecond of your time to actually read and see that i too said a centre back pairing of Gomez and Sakho is best then you wouldn't be wasting your time. What I disagreed with was your claim that we had evidence that (a) Gomez IS better than Skrtel at RCB and (b) Sakho is our best leader. So far, neither player as done or proved either of those claims to be the case whilst playing in a Liverpool shirt. That doesn't mean I don't think what you claim will come true (I do), it means you made a inaccurate claim. Those two claims are not proven at Liverpool!
     
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    lallana must play!..look at his PES picture...sexy! Screen-Shot-2015-09-22-at-13.35.15.png
     
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