The Systems Thread

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Day 2 selections - A good few of these run against each other - lets hope that they don't prove too costly!!

Time Course Horse
14:30 Newcastle True Mason
14:45 Kempton Science
14:45 Kempton Host
14:45 Kempton Golden Bear
15:05 Newcastle Fools Rush In
15:05 Newcastle Sound Reason
15:05 Newcastle Lockdown
15:20 Kempton Captivated
15:40 Newcastle Isle Of Lismore
15:40 Newcastle Andronicus Beau
15:40 Newcastle Victory Heights
15:40 Newcastle Obtuse
16:15 Newcastle Aish
16:15 Newcastle Navajo Spring
16:15 Newcastle Electric Blue
16:50 Newcastle Desert Vision
16:50 Newcastle Hope Of Life
16:50 Newcastle Spirit Of Sisra
17:05 Kempton Malika I Jahan
 
So let's have a test - will post the system horses daily for the first week. All to win at level stakes at BSP.

Day 1 - 1st - Newcastle

13:00 - Stone Mason
14:10 - Edraak

Plenty of horses down for Tuesday and Wednesday
Interesting stat put up by Hugh Taylor Edraak(16/1) takes Burrows to Appleby switch to 3 from 3 following Kasbann (5/1) & Mithqaal(14/1) both owned by the Horse watchers
 
Interesting stat put up by Hugh Taylor Edraak(16/1) takes Burrows to Appleby switch to 3 from 3 following Kasbann (5/1) & Mithqaal(14/1) both owned by the Horse watchers


I had a chat with someone who worked at Burrows yard, and lets just say that it doesn't surprise me that horses do well when switching from that yard. He is in an enviable position of training for one owner and I am surprised that he still gets the amount of horses that he does.

Horse watchers have another one out first time for the yard, well worth a look.
 
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Day 2 selections - A good few of these run against each other - lets hope that they don't prove too costly!!

Time Course Horse
14:30 Newcastle True Mason
14:45 Kempton Science
14:45 Kempton Host
14:45 Kempton Golden Bear
15:05 Newcastle Fools Rush In
15:05 Newcastle Sound Reason
15:05 Newcastle Lockdown
15:20 Kempton Captivated
15:40 Newcastle Isle Of Lismore
15:40 Newcastle Andronicus Beau
15:40 Newcastle Victory Heights
15:40 Newcastle Obtuse
16:15 Newcastle Aish
16:15 Newcastle Navajo Spring
16:15 Newcastle Electric Blue
16:50 Newcastle Desert Vision
16:50 Newcastle Hope Of Life
16:50 Newcastle Spirit Of Sisra
17:05 Kempton Malika I Jahan


Very frustrating day with only Victory Heights winning at BSP of 9.4 (returned at 9.3 after commission). Some of the selections ran very good races and Science just got touched off and I had all but the winner in one of the later races.

17 bets
16 losers
1 winner

return -£5.7

So two days done and running total +£5.64 to level £1 stake
 
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Day 3

Time Course Horse
12:45 Yarmouth Zabeel Champion
13:00 Kempton Lady Fanditha
13:00 Kempton Agent Shiftwell
13:20 Yarmouth Wadacre Galoubet
13:55 Yarmouth No School Today
13:55 Yarmouth Julie Johnston
13:55 Yarmouth Enduring
13:55 Yarmouth Power On
16:15 Yarmouth Maydanny
16:50 Yarmouth Mountain Dreams
17:25 Yarmouth Morning Shadow
17:25 Yarmouth Robert Guiscard
 
Very frustrating day with only Victory Heights winning at BSP of 9.4 (returned at 9.3 after commission). Some of the selections ran very good races and Science just got touched off and I had all but the winner in one of the later races.

17 bets
16 losers
1 winner

return -£6.7

So two days done and running total +£6.64 to level £1 stake
Can't complain at that Nass with 16 losers.
What chance Born With Pride tomorrow? I've "lumped" on at 5/2. I lumped on Cold Front today <doh>
 
Can't complain at that Nass with 16 losers.
What chance Born With Pride tomorrow? I've "lumped" on at 5/2. I lumped on Cold Front today <doh>


I really like Born With Pride, could be very special, but its a tough race. The price looks pretty fair currently.

Today was one of those days, glad losses were minimised. Tomorrow looks a good opportunity.
 
Day 3

Two winners in

Maydanny - 5.55 - 5.46 (after commission)
Mountain Dreams - 4.30 - 4.24

So returned 9.70 for a stake of 12
Loss of £2.30

So after 3 days - +2.34

Interestingly tomorrow throws up too many horses, and it is the two year olds that have been costing the most of the profit. So the only two year olds being put forward are ones that fit into more than one system.
 
13:00 Newcastle Bottom Bay
13:15 Newmarket Sacred
13:50 Newmarket Zamaani
13:50 Newmarket Eye Of Heaven
14:25 Newmarket Existent
15:35 Newmarket Risk Of Thunder
16:10 Newmarket Sunset Memory
16:30 Newcastle Alpine Springs
16:30 Newcastle Adaay Dream
16:45 Newmarket I'm Available
17:20 Newmarket Commander Han
17:55 Newmarket Via Serendipity
17:55 Newmarket Arbalet
17:55 Newmarket Deep Intrigue
17:55 Newmarket Asdaa
18:15 Newcastle Ampney Red
18:30 Newmarket Pactolus
 
13:00 Newcastle Bottom Bay
13:15 Newmarket Sacred
13:50 Newmarket Zamaani
13:50 Newmarket Eye Of Heaven
14:25 Newmarket Existent
15:35 Newmarket Risk Of Thunder
16:10 Newmarket Sunset Memory
16:30 Newcastle Alpine Springs
16:30 Newcastle Adaay Dream
16:45 Newmarket I'm Available
17:20 Newmarket Commander Han
17:55 Newmarket Via Serendipity
17:55 Newmarket Arbalet
17:55 Newmarket Deep Intrigue
17:55 Newmarket Asdaa
18:15 Newcastle Ampney Red
18:30 Newmarket Pactolus


So a better day with

Sacred winning at 14.5 - 14.22 commission
Eye Of Heaven at 2.25 - 2.24 commission (two bets in race)
Adaay Dream at 9.57 - 9.42 commission

So returned 25.88 from 17

£8.88 profit

Moving the profit to £1 levels up to +11.22 (50 bets)
 
Time Course Horse
12:55 Lingfield Coco Bear
12:55 Lingfield Twentysharesofgrey
12:55 Lingfield No Leci
13:30 Lingfield Mark Of The Man
13:30 Lingfield Lothian
13:30 Lingfield Meant Two B
14:05 Lingfield Mr Kiki
14:25 Newmarket Keystroke
14:25 Newmarket Breathtaking Look
15:00 Newmarket Marie's Diamond
15:00 Newmarket Lord Tennyson
15:00 Newmarket Mythical Magic
15:00 Newmarket Vale Of Kent
17:00 Lingfield Badayel
17:20 Newmarket Ricetta
17:20 Newmarket Dawn View
17:35 Lingfield River Nymph
17:55 Newmarket Deep Intrigue
17:55 Newmarket Alaadel
18:30 Newmarket Equitation
 
Marie's Diamond won @ 17.06 (16.8 after commission)
Badayal won @ 5.77 (5.68 commission)
Ricetta won @ 2.47 (2.46 commission - due to two runners in race)

Alaadel was a non runner

so 19 bets

returned 24.94 = +£5.94

So after 69 bets +£17.16 to £1 level stakes (24% roi)
 
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Time Course Horse
12:55 Newcastle Thunder Of Niagara
13:15 Newmarket Royal Birth
13:15 Newmarket Restless Rose
13:15 Newmarket Street Parade
14:25 Newmarket Magic Lily
14:25 Newmarket Terebellum
16:10 Newmarket Jalaad
16:10 Newmarket Pinnata
16:20 Lingfield Bilandy
16:45 Newmarket Blown By Wind
16:45 Newmarket Alemaratalyoum
17:20 Newmarket Lazuli
17:20 Newmarket Huraiz
17:20 Newmarket Homespin
17:55 Newmarket The Trader
17:55 Newmarket Rise Hall
18:40 Lingfield Good Time Charlie

two horses in bold are double stakes as they fit into two systems
 
Thunder Of Niagara won at 11.00 (10.80 after commission)
Terebellum won at 1.91 (was odds against last night but heyho - returned 1.91 as no commission on a loss in the race)
Blown By Win won at 8.0 (7.82 after)
The Trader won at 5.54 (5.45 after commission)

So returned 25.98

£19 staked - £25.98 returned - £6.98 profit to £1 level

After today it stands +24.14 to £1 level stakes

88 bets and 27% ROI
 
Time Course Horse
13:05 Lingfield You've Charmed Me
14:15 Lingfield Pawpaw
14:25 Newmarket West End Charmer
14:25 Newmarket Sky Defender
12:55 Haydock Spiorad
12:55 Haydock Harrovian
16:00 Lingfield Led Astray
12:55 Haydock El Ghazwani
18:30 Newmarket Breathless Times
18:30 Newmarket Daschas
13:30 Haydock Bucephalus
14:05 Haydock Fanny Logan
14:40 Haydock Lord North
15:50 Haydock Golden Melody
15:50 Haydock Star Of Emaraaty
16:25 Haydock Betsey Trotter
16:25 Haydock Royal Intervention
16:25 Haydock Nina Bailarina
17:00 Haydock Garden Oasis
17:00 Haydock Critical Time
17:00 Haydock Dancing Rave
17:35 Haydock Sudona
18:10 Haydock Glorious Caesar
 
Considering the number of bets going on, 27% ROI is pretty amazing

Yeah it’s going well, and to be honest if I’d have been braver I could have removed all the Stuart Williams horses today given the previous days form. However I feel that doing that would make it difficult to accept if one came in at big odds.

The first 8 weeks are half price so I’m going to run it for two months and then re-evaluate. I’m aiming for anything over 15% ROI
 
Yeah it’s going well, and to be honest if I’d have been braver I could have removed all the Stuart Williams horses today given the previous days form. However I feel that doing that would make it difficult to accept if one came in at big odds.

The first 8 weeks are half price so I’m going to run it for two months and then re-evaluate. I’m aiming for anything over 15% ROI

Quietly watching this Nass, you have put so much in to achieve what is
so far a very good ROI - good luck for the months ahead.
 
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