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The super league will it resurface?

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  1. Toonitus

    Toonitus Well-Known Member

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    I don't think they'd get an invite , but I FFP was obolished and they can get promoted to it they'll go deeper than they are now .

    I think fans would revolt, but as soon as the weekend came they'd watch/go and in time it would simply become the norm.

    The league would be more dull than ever of all the other clubs can't compete..... I hope it never happens, but something is going to and it won't be good no matter how its dressed up .

    The prem needs these clubs and they know it.
     
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  2. Darth Plagueis

    Darth Plagueis Well-Known Member

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    So can someone explain super league?

    Is it a case of the biggest clubs being removed from their normal leagues and going off on their own?

    Or will, for example, PL teams still compete in the premier league but also have super league on the side?
     
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  3. Magdad

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    The original idea was it was to run alongside domestic leagues, in essence replacing the Champions League for those teams that entered it with the original teams being protected and having guaranteed inclusion in it regardless of their performances in domestic leagues.

    It was a closed shop making it very difficult to break into with ridiculous amounts of funding allowing those clubs to massively outspend anyone else when it comes to things like FFP.

    The fact they weren't banned from the Champions League for years was just baffling.
     
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    Ah, that sounds ****ing awful. So basically just let the big clubs reign supreme regardless? **** that.

    I hope whoever is trying to make this happen falls down a flight of ****ing stairs.
     
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  5. Magdad

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    Its that twat Perez from Madrid that keeps pushing it as its their only hope of keeping up with PL clubs. Spanish TV deal is **** in comparison, them and Barca have had to borrow up to their tits to keep up over the last 30 years. They then demand FFP to try and stop it, then realise they've ****ed themselves over even more.

    The CL has been **** for years and years. If the TV companies want it, then they should accept the original format, not demand that teams are seeded and avoid each other to the latter rounds. This is the huge issue with thick ****ing Americans who think they know best when it comes to sport despite only having professional leagues themselves for about 50 years.
     
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    Spot on - Barce and Madrid are the driving force - for exactly the reasons you point out - they can't afford to keep up with the rest. PSG and Bayern and probably Dortmund - who weren't part of the initial 12 but you could assume would have been recruited to be part of the 15 "secure teams" couldn't care less, the Italian teams kept their heads low apart from Juve - who we all know their past corruption issues - and then the English teams who got battered left right and centre - the 3 main ones that want it are - surprise surprise the yanks - Glazer at Man U, Henry at Liverpool and Kronke at Arsenal. All want a closed shop league where they and they alone are benefitting from the additional funds generated. All this BS about the football pyramid benefitting is bollocks how can they fund the entire European football pyramid - while having a closed shop where they get all the money and basically allow 5 random teams to join in the "fun" for a season here and there.
     
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    Problem: Out of control borrowing, salaries, player and agent fees. Cost is the problem.
    Solution: Bring down the cost. Cap agent fees, cap salaries, cap earnings, cap spending.

    Perez's solution: Give me more money.

    If the CL hadn't sold it's soul, if salary caps, spending caps, etc., had been brought in, if someone had stopped PSG paying £200m for Neymar, we wouldn't be in this mess. But trying to grab yet more money, without addressing the problem, is what will kill football.
     
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  8. Magdad

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    Simple solutions, rather than selling out to the whims of TV companies ensure the sports rules can't be changed for no reason. The champions of the league, the reigning cl winners and the winners of the domestic cups should be in the champions league.

    The rest should be in the Europa league.

    This will in turn increase the prestige of the Europa, the tv audiences will grow by having better quality teams in it. In turn it will increase the viewing figures of the domestic cups as they will be taken more seriously, ends this bollox of a so called big 6/7/8 as they will no longer be able to benefit from huge sums from a position of strength at the start of each season by already having the best squads.

    In addition, players should be made to pay agents. They benefit the players, not the clubs. The clubs in turn return to having the power and in the long run I could see this reducing wages.

    In addition, players wishing to run out their contract shouldn't be allowed to negotiate deals till 2 weeks after the contract ends. This puts an end to teams being shafted 6 months before a player's contract ends by them agreeing deals elsewhere.
     
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  9. G4rdToonArmy

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    If I was running a professional club - I'd point blank refuse to pay agents fee's - Pay the player a signing on bonus etc but as far as I'm concerned the player is the client of the agent and therefore should pay them from their salaries/bonus etc out of their funds. If you as a group (like say the EPl as a whole) said no no agents fee's you can go off and play in another league for all we care - I think the league is highly thought of enough to get away with it and set a precedent. But there is no way these agents should be getting multi million pound pay outs from clubs for their client signing with them. Can't think of another industry where it happens? It'd be like an estate agent charging the purchaser the commision fee for buying a house or a car sales man charging a fee to the previous owner for selling the car?
     
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    And once again.........where did the idea of sports agents come from? Oh that right, the USA. That country doesn't have the first ****ing clue about the difference between sport and what it means to the paying customer and business.
     
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  11. Toonitus

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    They don't care
     
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