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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by TheSecondStain, Apr 29, 2016.

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  1. Che’s Godlike Thighs

    Che’s Godlike Thighs Well-Known Member

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  2. Dark Lord SFC

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    I too salute Vardy but he has screwed £100k a week out of a club no bigger than ours and who long term can't possible sustain that level of expenditure especially when their other stars start to push for their wages to match his
     
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    Really? I'd say a player is only 'screwing' his employers if his performances (deliberately) undermine the financial expenditure that it costs to keep him. Vardy scored 25 goals and Leicester won the title. They will get an extra 30 million or so just from the Champions League. And Vardy will only cost 5 million a year.

    I wish a few more of our players would screw us like that.
     
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    The money for the CL will probably be a one off and then the club have to continue to pay his wages (& those others who push for increased wages as a result) on a more basic club income.....this is how Leeds hit the wall and still paying for their mistakes now
     
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    Vardy's increase is only an extra 2 million a year. If they sold him and bought in another player they would have to pay near enough that on agent's fees and signing bonus etc. Realistically only Mahrez and Kante will be able to demand a lot more. Even if they increased the wages of twenty-five squad members by 20k per week, that's still only 25 million a year. They will be making much more through merchandise now, and with the TV money, I think they will be okay.
     
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    So what you are saying DL is that we need to stop moaning about players leaving to join bigger clubs on better wages, because if they stay on a big deal with us, they'd just be screwing us?

    Damn that VVD, Fraser, JWP and Davis!!

    Oh and Leeds issue was they actually borrowed money "mortgaged" against future Champions League money ... they didn't qualify.
     
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    I think it's important that Leicester keep Vardy...because he's part of their success and it's a positive message to other players and to the fans. I've been angry enough about rats deserting our fully seaworthy ship to know how important that is.
     
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    Has Vardy actually committed himself to Leicester or is Wenger just trying to get him to make his mind up? All I can find is "Jamie Vardy is, at the moment, at Leicester and from what I know, he will stay at Leicester" says Wenger.
     
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    *Waves at Yaya Toure*
     
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    Leicester can afford to pay these sort of wages, as can a lot of premier league clubs these days. The ridiculous money from TV rights has made it possible. The main risk is for teams that get relegated and can sell their players on big wages. As long as a club is in the premier league they will be fine financially, and I can't see Leicester (or us for that matter) going down. So perhaps we should start using our spending power to our advantage, especially after posting tens of millions profit for the past two season.
     
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    http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/sa..._fully_understand__why_I_could_leave/?ref=mac

    Wanyama talks about wanting to play in the CL and hoping that Saints fans, who have always been wonderful to him, will understand why he may be the first to leave this summer. I don't think he will receive the hatred that other players have....like Schneiderlin, he stayed the extra season (despite a wobbly). Anyway, we will be concentrating on Koeman. Just get yourself sent off a few times, Victor....especially against us (or the game before preferably). :)
     
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    *shakes head*

    Do you not think that our Board are running the club well? I fully trust them to run this club in a safe financial manner and after 2009, that is my number one wish. We were so close to not having a club, that I never want us there again.

    Fans need to realise that this is how we will be run.
     
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    I agree in theory with you, but there has to be a balance. If we continue as we are then it is almost inevitable that we will fall down (and potentially out) of the league as other teams will spend more, and history shows that there is a very strong correlation between spend on transfers and wages and where you finish in the league.
     
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    Not sure how you thought my original message was suggesting the board aren't running the club well. Notice that I mentioned the profits we have posted recently have been extremely healthy, who do you think I am crediting with that?

    The board have been fantastic and get plenty of praise (rightly so) from the fans. It is also a fact that as revenue has just taken a massive spike due to TV contracts coming in to play, it would not be bad business to invest that money.

    Don't get me wrong, I am not calling for us to go out and spend for the sake of it. As our revenue increases, so should our expenditure as we have more spending power, unless of course you think the main aim of a football club should be to make a profit? In that case just keep spending as low as possible to remain in the league and that extra TV money will just be retained as profits for shareholders...
     
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    Fair enough, but you can't blame me for taking that last sentence I highlighted as a "let's splash the cash" comment.

    I don't think the club's main aim is to make profit, other than to help pay back the owners loans and investments (don't forget those are still there even though profits are reported). This Board has always said they will run things sustainably and I believe they are doing that well.

    Too many fans still do say "splash the cash." I note though that they have just splashed some cash by upping the contracts of four players who were not near the end of existing ones, so the board are doing it!

    Do you really believe the Board are doing what your last sentence says?
     
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    Are you telling me there isn't currently that balance

    We have been spending money!
     
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    It's all about finding the right balance. We have already seen with many clubs what can happen if a club over spends and isn't run sustainably. But by the same token, it is important to spend the money you do have in order to continue to grow and achieve more success on the pitch.

    So far I believe the board have got this spot on, but now every club in the league has seen an increase in revenue, it is important that this is partially reflected in club spending. Which, as you rightly point out with new contract tracts to several players, has already begun. Let's hope we continue to find that balance!
     
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    There has been that balance, but with the added revenue coming in from the TV deal people shouldn't be worried about spending £100k a week as we will have to start doing this as the market will be changing. I've only looked at our accounts briefly over the last couple of years and the only reason we have been in profit is because of player sales, if it wasn't for selling our best players we would have been making losses. The way transfers are listed on accounts is pretty complex so I may have got this wrong, and you also have to factor in the (hopefully) one off Osvaldo disaster which was a large write off on the accounts.
     
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    Well if that is correct, it makes my above posts even more relevant. It may just be more expensive running a club than people are aware. If that line I highlighted is correct, then it also means we should be worried about paying someone £100k a week.
     
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