The Summer Music Thread

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ken shabby said:
As per usual, Ponders whetted my appetite about history, so I drifted lazily onto Wikipedia. The bit about Narbonne is not overlong, and from the 10th century on is unsupported by references (job for you Ponders mate?) and I can only assume the Black Prince merely passed through. His stay outside Limoges is much more commented upon. What did cheer me up was a reference to Charles the Short, as it was the second time today I've run into a reference to him. I was wine tasting over the border in Spain this morning, and I noticed Charles the Short was transleted from 'Carlos the brief' in Spanish. Possibly died young? Possibly as a reult of drinking the same sort of wine I tried today? Anyway, Charles reclaimed Narbonne from the Muslims, in order to make the road safe for the Black Prince to go to Spain and put Pedro the Cruel on the throne. Given what princes and kings got up to in those days, I shudder to think what Pedro must have been doing to be fingered as 'cruel'.
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We need to clear up a few points, Ken - but your interest in history pleases me greatly. :emoticon-0147-emo:

It was Pepin the Short, son of Charles Martel and father of the Great Charlemagne, who sent the Muslims packing from Narbonne. This took place during the 8th century, approximately five hundred years before the Battle of Najera (the restoration of Peter the Cruel). Pepin lived a relatively long life, dying on campaign at the age of 54.

It was Charles the Bad, King of Navarre, who allowed the Black Prince safe passage through Aquitaine. Charles' death is beyond ghastly, yet many still believe it to be divine justice for his political wrongdoings.

I shall create a potted history of Narbonne and post it in due course.
 
Pepin, Charles, what's a missing letter or two between friends? Anyway, it was Pepin the brief at the wine tasting thing. As bad authors sometimes write on books, these are the facts....only the names have changed. Given he died at 54, I'm surprised that the Spanish called him 'Pepin the Brief'. Maybe he just was'nt much good at conversation.
 
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