Transfer Rumours The Summer “Have We Signed Anyone Yet?” Thread

[Saintmagic]

Am I the only one who though targett looked decent last season? And that comes as someone who previously thought McQueen was better.

Yes

 

[Che’s Godlike Thighs]

The other factor of course is Jake Vokins, who has had an excellent season in the league-winning U23’s. If Ralph thinks he’s good enough to step up, then he most certainly is, even at 19.

But as first choice? That's a huge gamble.

 

[ChilcoSaint]

But as first choice? That's a huge gamble.

I didn’t say first choice, but he’s good enough to push whoever is first choice.

 

[SaintJabie]

Isn't McQueen recovering from an injury?

 

[OddRiverOakWizards]

We have enough difficulties without needing to find a new left back. I think Hughes had a negative impact on Bertrand as they clearly didn't get on, hopefully he will be back to his best next season. Experience is useful, we don't just want youth.

 

[San Tejón]

We have enough difficulties without needing to find a new left back. I think Hughes had a negative impact on Bertrand as they clearly didn't get on, hopefully he will be back to his best next season. Experience is useful, we don't just want youth.

Hughes had a negative effect on the defence, full stop.
He inherited a strong defence at Stoke, yet oversaw it’s weakening until they became relegation candidates. I have no doubt that he would have taken us down as he didn’t know how to improve defences.

 

[Dark Lord SFC]

We have enough difficulties without needing to find a new left back. I think Hughes had a negative impact on Bertrand as they clearly didn't get on, hopefully he will be back to his best next season. Experience is useful, we don't just want youth.

Berty started going backwards during the Puel period and hasn’t come back since with any consistency

 

[Saintkitagain]

Yes

No, I also quite like Targett

 

[OddRiverOakWizards]

Berty started going backwards during the Puel period and hasn’t come back since with any consistency

I think the team has been in decline since the Koeman era simply because the squad quality has been reduced. Confidence, a winning mentality and higher quality team mates will make a player look better, whereas the opposite can make you look worse. Personally, I thought Bertrand started to look like his old self once Hasenhuttl came in and perhaps Hojbjerg being the captain freed him up and took a burden off him.

 

[fran-MLs little camera]

Sky: Celtic signing Turnbull from Motherwell.

 

[Archers Road]

Bertrand was at his peak about 2 years ago, he has noticeable declined since then.

Also, last time we did this with Clyne, he went on to do bugger all at Liverpool which partly justifies his sale.

Has he noticeably declined, or has he been playing in a noticeably poorer side?

He’s consistently been one of our best players, imo.

 

[Archers Road]

Is it unjustified to say I don’t think he’s that good? He gets no abuse from me, yet I think he’s no more than ok. I’d like us to have someone better, more at Ryan’s level.

You are perfectly justified in saying that, if it’s what you think. The concern has to be when the football geniuses in the crowd start getting on his back.

They loved him at Fulham btw - maybe that’s his level, or maybe they saw something we didn’t because he was a regular starter.

 

[thereisonlyoneno7]

I too like Matty. Always done a job when needed. Made some important goals last year with his crosses.

 

[Archers Road]

I too like Matty. Always done a job when needed. Made some important goals last year with his crosses.

And not forgetting the one he scored with his head against Bournemouth

 

[Saints Fan4Life]

No, I also quite like Targett

Ooh Targett fwend

 

[ChilcoSaint]

And not forgetting the one he scored with his head against Bournemouth

Which was the goal that ensured we stayed in the Prem.

 

[Saintharry13]

Has he noticeably declined, or has he been playing in a noticeably poorer side?

He’s consistently been one of our best players, imo.

Always confused me a little bit when he took so long to come back from his back injury when Ralph first arrived....its almost as if he needed to recover from the injury as well as get his head around his new tactics. I wondered if there was an issue with whether he saw eye to eye with Ralphy-baby...

 

[SaintMarv]

Ralph wants younger players so may go with Matt. I think Matt is not experienced enough at this level yet but if he doesn't play he never will be.

 

[Saints Fan4Life]

Always confused me a little bit when he took so long to come back from his back injury when Ralph first arrived....its almost as if he needed to recover from the injury as well as get his head around his new tactics. I wondered if there was an issue with whether he saw eye to eye with Ralphy-baby...

I don't think Ralph is the sort of man to play a player if he doesn't see eye-to-eye with them - see Mr Hoedt as evidence.

 

[fatletiss]

You are perfectly justified in saying that, if it’s what you think. The concern has to be when the football geniuses in the crowd start getting on his back.

They loved him at Fulham btw - maybe that’s his level, or maybe they saw something we didn’t because he was a regular starter.

I agree about the crowd. I hate that and always have. Separate discussion me thinks.

My concern for this debate is if Matty is good enough for Ralph and where he wants the team to be.