Off Topic The SIR Kenny Dalglish Public House
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Evening gents. Little help if you dont mind.
I have my appraisal at work soon amd have been told im likely to be dismissed. The reasons are laughable and absolute bollocks (department manager supports me not tge company on this).
Ive been told i cannot record the meeting. I will be recording it obviously.
Im always aware of, and vocally against some illegal practices going on. Things that could well result in some staff going to jail because of fraud. Ive made my concerns clear and refused any part. Perhaps i should walk away but tge fraud is by a small minority. The rest of us work our arses off.
How would you approach this then? All guns blazing, dismissing each bullshit claim one by one. Throwing my knowledge of the crimes being committed in for good measure or keep calm and see what happens?
I have my appraisal at work soon amd have been told im likely to be dismissed. The reasons are laughable and absolute bollocks (department manager supports me not tge company on this).
Ive been told i cannot record the meeting. I will be recording it obviously.
Im always aware of, and vocally against some illegal practices going on. Things that could well result in some staff going to jail because of fraud. Ive made my concerns clear and refused any part. Perhaps i should walk away but tge fraud is by a small minority. The rest of us work our arses off.
How would you approach this then? All guns blazing, dismissing each bullshit claim one by one. Throwing my knowledge of the crimes being committed in for good measure or keep calm and see what happens?
**** sorry to hear about that
"dismissing each bullshit claim one by one" Are you neing accused then?
Never a good idea to be all guns blazing
They gave me a bullet point list of 'concerns' to support their decision. It was laughable. Basically accusing me of being **** (im very good at the job i do amd save the vompany thousands).
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Gather evidence to argue the points they've raised against you.
All you can do is prove each point they have that it I wrong. Be prepared to argue, but not lose your cool when they dismiss your evidence or question it.
All you can do is prove each point they have that it I wrong. Be prepared to argue, but not lose your cool when they dismiss your evidence or question it.
They'll be better than me at this stuff. Biscan and Gerrez are good at stuff like this
Just dont get angry as you cant think straight then
Already on it. Have a meeting with my department manager tomorrow. Shes drafting up a counter argument for me and were going to get all the supporting evidence and statements to blow their claims away. Ive got 2 from collegues who hated me 3 months ago already.
Im prepared for a fight and work in complaints and compliance so am more than capable on that front. I rarely lose my cool if ever (one of their claims against me is that I do lol).
Its
Im not angry, im more tue vindictive type than the sort to start a hulk smash. Just feel this situation could warrant the brutal approach.
Well good luck with it, they'll be others who know better than me like I say
Stay calm. But stand up for yourself at the same time. Question the bullshit without making a rant. 
That's all I got.
That's all I got.
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UnitedinRed:6832271 said:
A recent court case using a recording (that wasn't announced beforehand) was awarded to the person dismissed (who made the recording) and the ruling changed slightly to suit. You don't have to anyone you are making a recording, you don't even have to be in the room. So long as it topic is what the recording was intended for it can be used. Obviously you would need evidence towards your reason for using it too.
Obviously answer the bullet points and make it impossible for them to make it a fair dismissal. If they keep you on but be ****s about it then keep evidence as you would have have a case for constructive dismissal. Basically, make sure everything is recorded. Any records should be signed by both parties if possible (bar the recording)
PS... Record it anyway and I'll try and dig the court case out for you as evidence <OK>
UnitedinRed:6832308 said:
It is not up to you to prove the bullet points are incorrect, it's up to them to provide evidence that they are true.
Have you officially been given targets or tasks you've failed to complete? Even if you have, use this meeting to dispute any target you feel was unfair, unequal compared to colleagues targets or any internal or external issues that stopped you making those targets, I'd hand over written versions of your responses to their points too.
Have they followed their own disciplinary process, it's very few offences they can jump straight to list of concerns that lead to dismissal. There's usually first appraisal, then verbal warning, then written warning. Have they made you aware of a clear process and right to appeal?
If the concerns are over your "whistleblowing" they have to be very careful as there is specific legislation to protect you regarding this as long as you followed in-house reporting procedure.
You have a right of appeal , remember to state that right at the beginning of the meeting that any discussion will not negate your legal right to appeal their decision. and I believe (don't quote me on this talk to citizens advice) as of April disputes have to go to mediation with ACAS before tribunal etc....
But yes, respond only to the written accusations, keep calm, don't be drawn into side issues not outlined in their bullet points, simply dispute each one and insist on seeing any evidence they have to prove each point, in writing.
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Oh, and don't tell them your a manc... they're bound to hold that against you.. rightfully so to be honest 
Oh, and don't tell them your a manc... they're bound to hold that against you.. rightfully so to be honest
They'll already know from his bad moods on a Mon morning
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Just had a Mexican; two fajitas, two enchiladas and two chicken skewers with onion rings and garlic bread #frickingawesome
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What were the Mexican firemen called?
Jose and Joseb
This is my favourite ever clip from Chris Moyles show. If you never listened to the show might not be as funny, because you don't know Aled and what he's like.. (the welsh one)
[video=youtube;q_Z9Q9yNQTM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=q_Z9Q9yNQTM[/video]
Jose and Joseb
This is my favourite ever clip from Chris Moyles show. If you never listened to the show might not be as funny, because you don't know Aled and what he's like.. (the welsh one)
[video=youtube;q_Z9Q9yNQTM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=q_Z9Q9yNQTM[/video]
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InBiscanWeTrust:6833157 said:What were the Mexican firemen called?
Jose and Joseb
This is my favourite ever clip from Chris Moyles show. If you never listened to the show might not be as funny, because you don't know Aled and what he's like.. (the welsh one)
[video=youtube;q_Z9Q9yNQTM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=q_Z9Q9yNQTM[/video]
I listened to that live in tears lol
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Same
brings back such good memories.
Listening to it again now. Often go back and listen to old clips of them.
Haven't listened to radio 1 in morning since they left...