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CCC said:
Fair enough, Saint. I can see this is a significant bugbear of yours. I abhor shoddy writing / scripting, too.

JB's example of the cavalry as a common Deus Ex Machina, was one that I'd forgotten. Perhaps I can cite my rather youthful age as an excuse. ;) Another common one, perhaps used more recently, is the 'it-was-all-just-a-dream' trope. Great sky-hook that one in scriptwriting. It screams that the author has run out of ideas.
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The Cavalry turning up is a common one.
But it does have the significant advantage of actually being possible and not a load of old bollocks.

It's only a bugbear of mine when we get to actually talking about it, though. I don't fill my every waking moment with it.
There are many more important things for me to be a moaning old bastard about.
You lucky people......
 
saintanton said:
The Cavalry turning up is a common one.
But it does have the significant advantage of actually being possible and not a load of old bollocks.

It's only a bugbear of mine when we get to actually talking about it, though. I don't fill my every waking moment with it.
There are many more important things for me to be a moaning old bastard about.
You lucky people......
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The film's ending harks back to what Superman's father tells him at the beginning of the film - that whatever he does, he mustn't alter human history. If anyone watching it has remembered his words [and even if they haven't] there's a sense of what is going to happen that will bring Superman to the brink of weighing up disobeying his father or resurrecting his love. Which path will he choose to follow? Saving Lois at the cost of disobeying and maybe disrespecting his father's memory, or obeying his father at the cost of losing his love?

How he will be seen in the future, hangs in that balance. The choice he makes sees him pick his adopted human persona over his 'alien' roots. That's fairly significant. It's also a recurring theme in these alien meets human, develops relationship, will he stay or go back to 'his kind' - type films.
 
johnsonsbaby said:
The film's ending harks back to what Superman's father tells him at the beginning of the film - that whatever he does, he mustn't alter human history. If anyone watching it has remembered his words [and even if they haven't] there's a sense of what is going to happen that will bring Superman to the brink of weighing up disobeying his father or resurrecting his love. Which path will he choose to follow? Saving Lois at the cost of disobeying and maybe disrespecting his father's memory, or obeying his father at the cost of losing his love?

How he will be seen in the future, hangs in that balance. The choice he makes sees him pick his adopted human persona over his 'alien' roots. That's fairly significant. It's also a recurring theme in these alien meets human, develops relationship, will he stay or go back to 'his kind' - type films.
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Ok. I give in.

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saint - I'm just offering an alternative read on the ending. You expressed specifically why it was a lame ending - I tried to show how it could have been looked at differently.

I did an MA in Humanities which, strange as it sounds, mostly involved analysing American literature [a couple of other things thrown in] - the only thing is now I find it really difficult reading a novel for pleasure <laugh>
 
johnsonsbaby said:
My money's on RHC - if he can stay on his feet <ok>


Froch v Groves right - what's your prediction?
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I'm gonna go with the knock offs guy, reckon he's got more agility and will dance around to tire RHC out.































In the actual fight I'm going with Froch to beat the living **** out of Groves, stupid Beats wearing poser.
 
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