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The Run In, Relegation Edition

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Schad, Feb 1, 2018.

  1. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    If we really pulled our socks up, we can get 12 points. Then we’d be fine. 9 would probably do it.
     
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  2. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace Forum Moderator

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    The scenario where we have to get at least a point off City is actually a real possibility, and strangely, one that I’m feeling increasingly confident we can achieve.
     
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  3. VVD

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    Now do I get a ticket for Leicester away... £12 travel on megabus but last train back is 9:58pm........
     
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  4. fatletiss

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    I wouldn’t want to take that chance.
     
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  5. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace Forum Moderator

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    Neither would I by choice, but we could be forced into that position!
     
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  6. st_brendy

    st_brendy Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Football doesn't work like this, not one little bit. But if everyone was to lose their remaining matches against the big six, but win all their other matches (with the exception of Palace-Brighton, Swansea-Saints, Swansea-Stoke, and Stoke-Palace, where clearly both sides can't win), then the table without those head-to-head matches looks as follows:

    14. Palace (36) 40 points
    15. Swansea (36) 38 points
    16. Brighton (37) 38 points
    17. Huddersfield (38) 38 points
    18. Saints (37) 37 points
    19. Stoke (36) 33 points

    So in the fantasy world where the above does occur, the four head-to-head matches decide who goes down. In the above table, before those head-to-head matches, no-one has joined WBA in getting relegated and only Palace are safe (nether Stoke nor Huddersfield can catch them).

    If this maybe shows one thing, it's a guide to the difficulty of each team's remaining fixtures.
     
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  7. Lovelocum

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    I really don’t see where you’re coming from. If we can’t take a point off West Ham and Newcastle why would you be confident we can draw to city? We need to mentally write off that game. If we need to be safe on the final day we’re going down.
     
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  8. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace Forum Moderator

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    Because the Arsenal game was the best we have played for ages, possibly all season, and Hughes is finding our strengths and weaknesses. I agree it would be better if we don’t need anything from the City game, but assuming they have won the title by then, I don’t see why we shouldn’t get a point off them, whether we need one or not.
     
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  9. Le Tissier's Laces

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    They only just beat us at their place, in far better form than they are now, and with more to play for.

    If we need three points against City on the last day, we’re not down until the final whistle goes and we haven’t beaten them. The 90s taught me that much!
     
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  10. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace Forum Moderator

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    Spoken like a true (bonkers) Saints fan! <ok>
     
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  11. st_brendy

    st_brendy Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I continue to maintain, as I have done for weeks, that I cannot see that we'll go into the City game more than three points clear of the bottom three. Quite possible that we'll already be relegated, but I can't see that we'll already be safe.

    Whether we're above or below the relegation line at KO, is a different story. As if whether we'll actually need to get something against City (and if so, then what).

    If you offered me the scenario today where a victory against City guarantees to keep us up, but anything else will send us down, would I take that? I'm not sure. Although the fact that I'm not flat out ruling it out, is arguably telling. I don't think we can beat City, but I also don't think we can survive either. So which do I (not) think more? Clearly having a scenario where a win (however unlikely) on the last day keeps us up, is better than a scenario where we need to win and also hope for assistance elsewhere - or worse, a scenario where we're already relegated. But it's potentially still a futile scenario.
     
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  12. thereisonlyoneno7

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    Also, Pep seems to love Redmond, we should offer him to them on a free if they throw the game :)
     
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  13. thereisonlyoneno7

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    ..or we can say we will let Aguero win the golden boot, if they let up score one more.

    7-6 in the final game would be ace
     
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  14. Dell1964

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    Mmm, you'll get a splinter if you sit on that fence for toooo long!
     
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  15. Dell1964

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    Fault of the attack?
    Or
    Fault of the defence?

    Saints have failed to win in SIX GAMES, where they have scored the 1st goal.
     
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  16. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    I said as early as the defeat to Stoke that I think the defence is a bigger issue this season, at least we were still quite solid last season.
     
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  17. Dell1964

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    Yep. Unfortunately, many 'fans' pointed the finger at the forwards........ and it didn't augur too well for Claude Puel because of that somewhat misguided view. He did what he did with the hand that he was dealt; but still got a Wembley final and a relatively good finishing spot to boot!
     
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  18. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    It was the board that sacked him...
     
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  19. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Don't get me wrong we still have big problems up top but you can get away with that if you've got a relatively solid defence.

    If you struggle to score more than once in a match and your defence always looks like coughing a chance or two up then you're not going to win many games.

    Which is probably why we have one (against the worst side in the league) in half a season <laugh>
     
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  20. thereisonlyoneno7

    thereisonlyoneno7 Well-Known Member

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    Corrected
     
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