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The RETURN.. of.. GLEN JOHNSON

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Magic Ted, Jan 22, 2015.

  1. What about if Johnson as the game of his life...? Oh, hang on, I forgot. Disliked players can't play well can they :p

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  2. InBiscanWeTrust

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    With the standards he's set himself, he only had to have 2 **** ups rather than the normal 5 to have the game of his life though <whistle>
     
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    I read somewhere that it is compulsory to offer new contracts as per UK Law.

    Refusal to offer new contract is seen as dismissal.

    In most cases, the club will just offer a sh*t contract if they don't want the player.
     
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    One good game will not compensate a career of mediocre defending, and the last 2-3 years of sh*te performances, no heart or effort.
     
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  5. That's simply not true. A contract is a contract, once it expires it expires. Its only the big ****ing companies that put small print in saying they will automatically renew the contract unless you give three months notice prior to the end date that do otherwise <grr>
     
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  6. Never said it would. Pretty sure Johnson playing well would justify Brod's decision to include him should he chose to though :)


    Edit: I was responding to the comments about closing the Brod credit thread. It doesn't matter how he performs, the threads doomed if Johnson starts <ok>
     
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    Failure to offer a new FTC (if original deal is over a certain length) is treated as dismissal in law.

    Will try and find a link.
     
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    http://www.shoosmiths.co.uk/client-...hs-expose-legal-risks-for-employers-1284.aspx

    Scroll down to point 4.

    Many employers don't appreciate that a failure to renew a fixed-term contract is regarded as a dismissal and therefore a fixed-term employee may be able to claim unfair dismissal if they have the necessary length of service Consequently the importance of following a fair procedure in respect of any non-renewal should not be overlooked. Even if the ACAS Code does not apply an employer will need to follow a fair procedure in such situations.
     
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  9. Even if true (which it isn't), the club would only have to issue a ninety day notice (redundancy notice) that its not going to renewed and they'd be fine anyway.
     
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  10. Jimmy Squarefoot

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    Please refer to my last post.

    And apologise and acknowledge the fact that I was right, and you are wrong.
     
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  11. I've seen it and I still don't believe it. I deal with work contracts on a almost monthly basis because of working for a charity with limited funds. Redundancy rules say you are required to give ninety days notice of redundancy so they could do that and be covered anyway. But, with the contract expiring the agreement will no longer be in place. The club could just offer ridiculous terms to fulfill the ludicrous claim too.
     
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    You just have to serve notice that they won't be extended if on a fixed term contract. If you don't serve notice then that's when it becomes tricky.
     
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    But then we would have to pay Glen redundancy? Given how long he's been at the club at £100k a week, I can imagine the pay off would be significant?

    So therefore, we offer him a new deal (which is compulsory) on worse terms so he rejects it, thus saving the club potentially millions ...?
     
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  14. Nope. Law says you only have to pay a maximum of £450 for each year served.
     
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    Perfect! :)
     
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  16. I should add that that is a very vague summary, there are variables to the calculation but in Glen's case, it would be £450 <ok>

    However, that won't be his case because he is out of contract and therefore the agreement just ends. Just to be on the safe side, the club should issue him with written notice of that intention too.
     
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    I'd have thought football contracts have a lot of clauses in them around termination of contract and it states in there somewhere that if no renewal is offered x amount of days before it's due to expire then notice is automatically served or something.

    He he wouldn't be the first person to leave on a free once the co tract expires so don't think we have to worry about it too much
     
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  18. Very true. can't say I'm bothered, only discussing it because the boards dead and there is no way I'm doing work!
     
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    Boring..............................................Just kill the ****. That's the right 'contract' for Johnson <laugh>
     
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  20. Okay, I'll admit that there may be consequences with his approach...<laugh>
     
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