Normal people, yes ........ with these I've no idea. If they're booking flights then they have freedom, credit cards, phones etc. If 15 year old girls have all that and want to return to a medieval ideology then I've no idea how their minds work.
Shame and embarrassment in a small closed community. A loss of respect can be devastating for families in these circumstances. I'd be on the next plane over there!
No. Your other points were beneath contempt and not worth responding to. I was just referring to my own experiences over the 20-30 years on your last point.
They are **** shags & they do stink of curry. WHAT'S YOUR PROBLEM CHUM? Just because you married one, doesn't mean the rest of us have to rim the ****s.
Not always. The shame and humiliation caused by a young girl to her family and the consequences of their standing in the local community, can lead to her death at their hands. This isn't religion by the way. It's culture. And not only in Islamic families. You could have said the same about Christian families a long time back.
Ever got near a French bird's sweaty crotch? It's like a bucket of cold water. I've known some Turkish lasses, Pakistani lasses and I'm married to a Bengali lass. They could all teach most of the white women I've been with a hell of a lot about sex. And not a hint of curry anywhere. Should that have been in capital letters as well?
That wasn't a particularly good statement was it! . Though in Latin countries, honour killings were an accepted means to end a feud within a community. Cultures primarily Hindu or Sikh, also allow honour killings of young women. Its not systematic either, though you could say it's systemic. My badly made point was that this was nowt to do with religion but all to do with culture.
Nah, not the same thing at all mate ....... we were in Sicily, Sardinia & Corsica all last summer and learned a lot about the 'vendetta' culture. It's 100% about protecting your own family, and your own honour, against any outsider of whatever creed or culture. There are never ever any killings within a family, it would be totally unacceptable. 'Honour killings' is not a phrase you can apply to Latin countries in the same way you can with Sikhs etc. There is absolutely no honour in killing your own children ever ..... the phrase stinks tbh.
You could say that vendetta's are a sub-set of honour killings but focussed outside the family, usually to another family or clan. They're not 2 discrete things. Young Latin girls have occasionally been killed by their own families, for getting pregnant outside marriage, for eloping with the wrong guy, etc. and it's been that way for hundreds of years. It's more associated with the Middle East now, but it was endemic in Europe from the time of the Romans, through to medieval times. It was all about the subjugation of women. We've moved on now, they haven't. Yet! Totally agree with your last sentence! It's beyond my comprehension.
You could say whatever you like but it's not the same thing at all. Not being rude mate but this is a pointless discussion. Protecting your family from outsiders is nothing like killing your own children .......... no 'sub-set', no going back in time, just nothing like it at all.
