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The Ralph Hasenhüttl Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Saints_Alive, Nov 7, 2022.

  1. thereisonlyoneno7

    thereisonlyoneno7 Well-Known Member

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    But in all honesty probably safe at 35 points.
     
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  2. StJabbo1

    StJabbo1 Well-Known Member

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    I hate the footy cliches they make me sick as a parrott.
     
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  3. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    The way that we were playing even under Ralph was relegation form, we were getting worse match by match.
     
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  4. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    We’d have done better under Ralph, I think.
     
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  5. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Problem is that doesn't account for the second half of the season collapse we had under him for every season bar the one with an enforced 3 month break. So that probably takes that 35 to 27/28
     
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  6. Schad

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    In the four seasons where he was around in the second half, we closed strongly twice (2018-19, 2019-20) and collapsed twice (2020-21, 2021-22). Basically impossible to say how we'd have done with him, really, because the hallmark of Ralph's teams was that they would string together 2-3 months where they played like Champions League winners at some point in the year, while playing like 2007-08 Derby for the rest of the year. He might've gotten us to 45 points, and he might've gotten us to 20.
     
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  7. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Well I was only including his full seasons as you can't really comment on a managers teams collapsing in second half of a season when he only joined in December. But in those 3 full seasons we collapsed in 2 and didn't in the other which wasn't a normal season.

    I agree it's basically impossible but again history suggests that Ralph's run of making us look like world beaters were when he had a decent goalscorer in top form. Not sure how that would have happened this season, suspect his 'good' runs would have yielded far less points due to this - For example I think United at home was our second best performance under Ralph this season after Chelsea but we lost it 1-0.
     
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  8. Schrodinger's Cat

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    He failed.
    He's gone to play his piano and count his cash.
    I'm moving on.
     
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  9. Osvaldorama

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    At least we had a plan and a clear way of playing under him.

    This current team under Selles is absolutely atrocious. Just aimless running and passing it out of play. Horrific.

    I am absolutely baffled at just how bad we are right now.
     
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  10. Schrodinger's Cat

    Schrodinger's Cat Well-Known Member

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    We're actually bad, even when compared to terrible :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  11. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Don't disagree with any of that bar the last sentence as it doesn't surprise me at all <laugh>
     
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  12. It'sOnlyAGame

    It'sOnlyAGame Well-Known Member

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    You're right it's a pretty ****e analogy but I was just pointing out that we were performing poorly even then.
     
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  13. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    We went from like 2/10 performances to -10/10 performances.

    Truly incredible how badly the club have ****ed this season up. Even though we’ve known for ages I am still utterly stunned at how bad we are
     
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