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The problem with St James Park

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by southerngeordi, Nov 14, 2011.

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  1. The wizard

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    Just have a little more trust in mike , he'll re invest the £££ ... Then Well be tearing the intertoto cup apart again in a few years.. What more would u want
     
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  2. NufcBano

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    Im not upset to the highest degree that the stadium will sell sponsorship rights.....

    im upset that its been changed to a piece of cr*p chav sports company....FOR FREE!

    Sell them, fine. We will call it St James anyway. But dont give the c*nt away to promote urself you fat f*cking scumbag.
     
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  3. The Secret Ingredient

    The Secret Ingredient Well-Known Member

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    no more wums :)
     
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  4. Colly NUFC

    Colly NUFC Active Member

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    What about it? I'd not heard that one before but it sounds ****ing horrendous.
     
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  5. Prince Isak (GG)

    Prince Isak (GG) Well-Known Member

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    The fact is if a sponsor came to any premiership football club and said...

    "We would like to sponsor your stadium per annum £10 million for 10 years but would need to change the name of the stadium, would you be interested"

    ALL premiership football clubs who are not currently being sponsored would say yes and feck me if they didnt they would be stupid.

    Liverpool cant expand their football stadium because the costs of doing so are mega, the red tape almost so thick it cant be cut. Thus they may have to rebuild a new stadium which would NOT be called anfield. Do you think the Scousers would kick up a fuss.

    Manchester City had to rebuild a new stadium and call it something different.

    The history of a football club and heritage is very important but its always in the past and NEVER forgotten.

    Moving with the times means we have to obtain new income to develop as a football club.

    My concern is that the whole sponsor thing is a load of bollocks and that its just Ashley using that as a tool to advertise FOR FREE his business. That there is in fact no intention at all of getting a new stadium sponsor.

    His firm could sponsor the shirts, the stadium, the training kits the whole shebang...... But it would cost 10's of millions.... is he really gonna pay this.

    Im spent on the subject I really am.

    Lets just enjoy the football on the pitch and let THEM worry about the finances.
     
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  6. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    The previous regime were a bunch of clowns also, who believed we needed a new stadium to cope with demand. That is quite frankly bollocks, 52,000 is all we need and it was never happening. It was just another of Freddies grand plans with no thought for cost. And no this is a much bigger break from tradition. If you move stadiums to accomodate the paying public who love the club and there is no other way round it, I can understand it. It would be very sad but its kind of unavoidable. If you sell the name of the current stadium which has been in place for 119 years for money, that is shockingly low for me. You're tampering with something that is not yours to tamper with. In business terms as the owner it probably is yours to tamper with, but in sporting and heritage terms it most certainly is not for me personally.

    Sponsorship of shirts and competitions in this country was a complete necessity to allow football to flourish. Up until the late 70's/early 80's, club competitions and clubs were not sponsored but harder economic times meant that in order for football to flourish and grow, additional revenue streams were required. This is moving witht he times as football was beginning to die a death in this country. That is simple restructuring for the good of the game. It has been controlled (i.e. sponsor size etc). That is not crossing the line for me. Selling off stadium names, changing team names and team colours is completely unacceptable. Way back when of course we wore different coloured shirts but its been set in stone for a long time now. Of course now we have ball sponsorship and so on but do we really care about those minor details? The name of the clubs stadium to me is a massive thing, obviously not to others.

    As you say we already have Red Bull Salzburg, we have seen clubs move city in this country, and team colours have been changed at various clubs. I loathe this notion and the obvious natural progression is team names and shirt colours from stadium name changes. It is an exploitable revenue stream. You say not even Ashley is that stupid but its no more stupid or unacceptable to me than changing the stadium name so I wouldn't bet against it. I think you underestimate the mans ability to not give two hoots about the club and its history. Its just another one of his businesses to him that needs to make him good profits. I understand that and do not expect him to be a sugar daddy. If he runs the club in a responsible manner, and we maintain a level in keeping with the money the club generates then I have no argument on the playing side. I couldn't care if we pay 1m or 10m for a player truth be told. Just don't start trampling on things that do not belong to you. I'd rather be in the 2nd division playing at St James Park in black and white still called Newcastle United rather than in the champions League playing at the SDA. Yes I feel that strongly about this bit of tradition! As I say I won't get upset or shout and whinge because it serves no purpose, but its an absolute ****ing disgrace in my book.
     
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  7. Warmir Pouchov

    Warmir Pouchov Better than JPF

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    Wrong Man U could do this yesterday if they wanted. They haven't because they respect their heritage. the Liverpool and Man C examples are completely different to our own and not relevant at all. Liverpool would not rename anfield and City wouldn't have renamed Maine Road. if these set of ****s were building a new stadium and selling the name then yes no problem. The place has no history so pretty much anything is acceptable.
     
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  8. The Secret Ingredient

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    Wasn't just the mackems said no there was a pressure group which didn't want the stadium on the land that was proposed he was wanting something along the lines of a 75,000 all seater stadium,i also believe it was a threat to Newcastle council about expansion of SJP but he'd have done it if he got the go ahead make no mistake about that and we'd have been playing in Gateshead

    sure someone like AB or even syd could fill you in better but i remember it caused uproar even at the suggestion of it
    it's all to do with wanting a new ground on leazes park and then the expansion of the current ground both being knocked back at the time but the threat of going to Gateshead seemed to do the trick for the expansion but like i said if he'd have been knocked back again he'd have moved us to a new ground in Gateshead whose council was more than willing at the time if i remember rightly.
    Think the ground share came from him using Italy as an example
     
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