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The Problem With Leeds Right Now

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by BillysStatue, Mar 26, 2014.

  1. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Fair play Chesh. Despite the obvious understandable anger, that is a great post <ok>
     
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  2. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    I can't help that we are being played.

    If you wanted to put the arm up the back of the fl you would have done exactly what GFH and the Chello seller have done by gambling the clubs future. If it comes off then great, if it fails and the fl call their bluff we are fecked.

    Seriously though if we end up with a flat pack admin I won't be setting foot in ER under the new regime. Stiffing all the small businesses is no way to conduct yourself.
     
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  3. lifecheshirewhite

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    Can't see how the flat pack thing is possible m8,if it was a new co,it would have to start again in non-league surely and yet would have still to pay the players contracts which would not be possible.Think the only way we could go into admin would be the same as last time.
     
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  4. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    That is no more acceptable knowing that Haigh and all those would be suicide bombers have been creaming cash off the top. Cnuts the lot of em.... Why is it always us.
     
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  5. lifecheshirewhite

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    Only option is Cellino TBH THE QC WHO DOES THE APPEAL NEEDS HELP WITH HIS FINDINGS.
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  6. ristac

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    I had this debate with him before... McDermott has NOT had to sell a single player, I believe Josh was including the signing of Morrison as 2m (the value of Becchio) and forgets that Warnock was forced to sell both Snodgrass and Clayton and the percentage of funds received for those went out on players.


    1) It is doom and gloom because Leeds United are in a MESS. No money, verge of going into admin, 3 wins in 20 games and constantly getting thrashed.

    2) What about if you look at it from the majority on here rather than minority, the majority that see and feel that there is nothing to be excited about, the majority who think McDermott is useless and clueless and what if we said we are fed up with you serial whining about how he is a good manager? We don't believe he is good, we don't feel things at the club are good but we accept that some people differ with their opinions. If you don't like the negativity glance over it, don't read it or place on ignore.
     
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  7. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Tell you one reason it is always us. We probably have the biggest turnover of cash outside the pl so more money to cream off. Added to that the media would keep a far closer eye on pl clubs so not as likely to get away with it with one of the pl clubs. So why always us, cos were a big soft target
     
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  8. lifecheshirewhite

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    Do GFH by chance have a director called [eutatSsylliB] ?.<whistle>
     
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  9. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    A bloody cert. good spot :laugh:
     
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  10. JonnyLosAngeles

    JonnyLosAngeles Well-Known Member

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    I recall that at the time Warnock was quoted that he did not rate Clayton and wanted to replace him.
     
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  11. MarkoLUFC

    MarkoLUFC Well-Known Member

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    Problem with Leeds is that **** David Haigh and his mates. Honestly thought it couldn't get worse than Bates.
     
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  12. lifecheshirewhite

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    Problem was he replaced him with a cheque and Ken had that.
     
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  13. JonnyLosAngeles

    JonnyLosAngeles Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps Colin thought he meant a Czech?
     
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  14. ristac

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    We obviously remember things different...

    Warnock was told that there is no money unless you sell.

    Quote "If Adam can't be sold as we wont offer him the contract he wants, then he can stay here next season the door is not closed on him."

    Warnock offered him a contract that he felt he was worth, keeping in mind Bates had given Warnock a wage budget and Clayton refused so he was sold.

    Warnock was given a percentage of the sale and then he was also forced to sell Snodgrass and again he did not receive the proceeds of the sale.

     
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  15. JonnyLosAngeles

    JonnyLosAngeles Well-Known Member

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    Obviously! <laugh>

    They have some really good remedies to improve memory, you should try them sometime! <laugh> <laugh>

    The conundrum is whether you should spend your money on that or at SpecSavers first? <laugh> <laugh> <laugh>

    Just kidding of course! :emoticon-0105-wink:

    You have reminded me that Colin made some contradictory comments about Clayton at the time and the ones that stuck with me were the ones where he did not rate him.

    <cheers>
     
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  16. ristac

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    Those who feel McDermott has run his course will not change their minds, those that feel McDermott is the right man will not change theirs either, not yet anyway <ok> As far as I am concerned Warnock was very poor, McDermott worse but TBH that no longer matters to me at the moment.

    The real concern is the finances and future, things are not looking good after the news today about wages.

    The reality hitting home that our financial situation is genuinely bad and that it is no longer just rumours.

    The conundrum is; so what if McDermott walks out or is relieved of his duties, we are on the verge of a financial collapse, points deducted this year or next will mean we are going to more than likely be a Division one team one way or another and without the likes of Ross and Byram promotion back to this division won't be quick.

    McDermott or the next man in = a dead man walking in this job.
     
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  17. JonnyLosAngeles

    JonnyLosAngeles Well-Known Member

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    Leeds United = poisoned chalice for the last decade.

    QED!

    <sorry>
     
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  18. 666 & Elmo

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    Only because the owners chose it to be so Jonny. Spending money on too many players, without a strategy on the type of players wanted, not having a long-term strategy but always looking at "this season, it must be this season", always changing managers who wanted to bring in their own players who weren't chosen based on a way of playing football, throwing more money we didn't have at court cases and the East Stand and radio stations, moving the away supporters, building the pavilion and the bars, exorbitant management or consultancy and legal fees. Most of that could have waited.

    Prudent financial management of this club along with a manager who has and explains a long term vision and who does not buy any and every player out there that becomes available just because he couldn't get his targets. If you can't get them, you don't get someone who does not display the right traits as a back-up.

    We have £30m income each year - 40 players/management staff at average £5k per week (and there is no way we shuold pay more than that) is £10m. £2m for ER, and £1m for TA. That leaves another £15m for other costs and then save the rest to pay off debts and build a pot.

    Problem is, people go daft when they get the club - gotta get up now, gotta pay stupid money for and daft wages on ****e players.

    It does not need to go on. Other clubs can live within their means, and they don't earn half as much as we do
     
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  19. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    You won't get anyone wort a damn to play for 5k a week. Unrealistic wage unless were in league 1
     
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  20. BillysStatue

    BillysStatue Well-Known Member

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    ristac, you are correct ... and that last sentence of yours makes the point of my post ... McD or whoever cannot manage this club as they would like with the "leadership" and the squad we have ... and I stand by my belief that McD is a not bad manager, I really feel sorry for the man because he simply hasn't had the chance to build HIS team, and the pile of bricks he inherited has proved impossible to sell off ... no chance of freeing up wages or getting in transfer funds has been a millstone ... he's tried his best and I am surprised he is still trying, many a manager would have walked after the Cellino fiasco and taken a fat payoff ... funny thing is nobody has bothered to name a manager who could do a better job in the circumstance ... McD is not a bad manager, he's simply been dealt an impossible hand in his dream job, and that is very sad ... I support him because of this, because he's an honourable person and so much classier than our last two idiot managers ... McD will leave Leeds, by no later than June, and he will return to management and be a success, with Leeds having missed out on his skills because the club massively let him down ... if the FL does not approve Cellino we are doomed, we will be in League One soon, and we will have a string of idiot managers fcuking us up further ... think about it


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