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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by TheSecondStain, Jun 28, 2016.

  1. Schad

    Schad Well-Known Member

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    It has to be less likely. Last year's top four lost 14% of the time, but drew 20% of their matches, and there's more randomness in that than the loss column.

    Assuming that four out of every five matches would result in not-draws for a team like Spurs, and assuming that not-drawing is kinda random, the odds of getting wins/losses in every match would be in the region of .8^38, so about 4814:1 against. So if those are the odds for a top four team, on average you'd expect an Undrawables season every 1200 years or so. If going by the numbers for the league as a whole, using last year's 26% draw rate, you'd expect an Undrawables season every 2450 years.

    So we're potentially witnessing a once-in-a-millennia event. I mean, the math's all squirrely because it isn't really a random walk but whatever let's go with it.
     
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  2. tomw24

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    Roman will probably bring back Mourinho again. <laugh>
     
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  3. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    I've told you, it'll be a draw when they play down here. Nailed on.
     
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  4. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Lampard/Terry?
     
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  5. Daveunited

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    Feck them, they have had enough as it is at this season
     
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  6. The Ides of March

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    Hiddink is tried and trusted.
     
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  7. ----HistoryRepeating----

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    Spurs are treading water in the league in the most magnificent way. I imagine when the first defeat arrives, more will follow.
     
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  8. fran-MLs little camera

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    Watching MOTD, nice Bournemouth goals.
     
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  9. ChilcoSaint

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    Clean sheet for Artur too.
     
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  10. Schad

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    Boruc hasn't surrendered a goal in league play since 2017...legend.
     
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    Spurs trophy less period ends.
     
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  12. Che’s Godlike Thighs

    Che’s Godlike Thighs Well-Known Member

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    To think how much letting him go has cost us financially. :emoticon-0101-sadsm
     
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  13. Che’s Godlike Thighs

    Che’s Godlike Thighs Well-Known Member

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    Also, despite 4 years of supposed 'rivalry', I can't help but love seeing Bournemouth do so well in the Prem.
     
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  14. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Yeah same though I'd prefer we were doing better than them. Scousers go there in a couple of weeks.
     
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  15. Qwerty

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    I suppose for one team it's less likely but all 20 have a similar-ish chance, and only the best teams can go unbeaten, so the chance for it to happen in a season is maybe higher. I went down the rabbit hole anyway, all I can find that goes close is this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008–09_Sporting_de_Gijón_season
     
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  16. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Spurs got 29k last night <yikes>
     
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  17. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Yeah. Saw thought. Ouch.
     
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  18. Schad

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    1 in 2450 was what I came up with for a full 20-team league, but I think I must've done something incorrectly. A draw rate of 26%: .74^38 = 1 in 93152 chance, divided by 20 teams should equal 1 in 4658. Basically, if you and 19 other people each flipped a coin twice, and then repeated that process 37 more times, it's roughly the odds that none of you would ever get two heads in any of those 38 pairings.

    In any event, it's not likely.
     
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  19. thereisonlyoneno7

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    However, it should be the most likely outcome. After all, all games start as a draw.
     
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  20. ihatemyselfandwanttodie

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    Have you allowed for the ref factor in that?
     
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