The Premier League Thread

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by TheSecondStain, Jun 28, 2016.

  1. The Ides of March

    The Ides of March Well-Known Member

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    What City did or were guilty of should have been of no interest to these "self serving nine" as you put it." I can see why but it makes them more repugnant than City!!
     
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    So, were you equally repulsed by the bottom five voting to discontinue the season during the covid outbreak? Clubs always look after their own interests before that of others.
     
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  3. The Ides of March

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    No, as it seemed they had a valid point at the time. But that little issue has been resolved happily, or not if one is a Bournemouth fan. Anyhow I am making the point that these 9 clubs are more repugnant than City, but you haven´t addressed my original point!
     
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    I'd prefer the nine to get upset about what has happened to Wigan. That is the real crime. City are just the same as Utd, Real, PSG.....ect
     
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    Great response. Game set and match to You.
     
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    Why oh why would a middling (at best) Premier League team NOT put in a relegation clause? Maybe the agents didn't want it, but if it was my money as an owner I would insist and move on to the next if they refused.
     
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    We get quite a few mentions https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53553300

    Including away performance, good after lockdown, average age,, came out well for var decisions, ings gets a mention and article finishes Southampton are a team to keep an eye on when the new season starts.

    A false dawn?
     
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    Following on the fact that Bournemouth didn't set relegation clauses in many of their squad, this is scary reading:

    https://financialfootballnews.com/afc-bournemouth-2019-finances-costly-survival/

    Near the bottom of the report it says they are still owed about £5m in fees from other clubs, but in 2020 have to find £85m that they owe in fees (I imagine these fees are staggered and are all due this year).

    Scary in a world-wide pandemic and no TV rights coming in.
     
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    They're ****ed, probably be the next Bury.
     
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    Best get down home bargains and pick up a few buckets and starting rattling.
     
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    They will have to cash in on their assets!!! Might raise a few million and reduce their onerous wage bill!!
     
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    We'll give them 50 bags for Brooks <whistle>
     
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    This will have to be bonded!
     
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    Think it’s gonna get ugly....(ier)
     
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    It is scary. At the same time, it isn't exactly fatal, so long as Bournemouth burns the squad to the ground. Even a mediocre now-former PL club can recoup a huge pile of money if they sell off everything with two legs, and most of Bournemouth's higher earners should be loan targets even if no one wants to shell out big fees for them.

    But that's what is necessary. Don't hang on to players because they are fan favourites, don't think "well, it won't be so bad if we come straight back up". The financial gap between the PL and Championship has never been more stark, and one of the consequences therein is that you basically have one year to get your **** sorted or you're utterly screwed. You're better off getting relegated a second time with a cobbled-together squad on Championship wages than you are to be mid-table with a squad that is 50% comprised of dudes makng £50k+ a week. You can recover from the former, the latter is fatal. Anyone who isn't making Championship wages has to be in the window and you have to be a highly motivated seller.

    That's what all of those player acquisitions are, ultimately, if you're a midtable-or-below club: they are a rainy day fund that needs to be recouped in full the second you get relegated. Ake, Lerma and Brooks should fetch £80m or more, and they can get fees for a great many others if they're willing to take losses. If they do that, and aim to stabilize in the Championship, they'll be fine. If they treat themselves like a temporarily inconvenienced Premier League club, even coming straight back up will leave them saddled with debts that will hinder them, and if they aren't that lucky, they'll be Bolton of the South Coast.
     
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  16. The Ides of March

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    That´s Portsmouth. Even their Guildhalls are twins!!!
     
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    That's the problem with them though. I feel they sleepwalked into relegation as they never really believed until the end that they were in the the do-do.
     
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    Looking at this it’s pretty scary to think they have no relegation clauses in place...

    https://www.spotrac.com/epl/afc-bournemouth/payroll/
     
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  20. Schad

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    Those Spotrac numbers are grossly inaccurate; if they were correct, Bournemouth would have absolutely nothing to worry about. Those wages are a pittance in the modern game, enough so that the wage bill listed there would be consistent with a slightly-ambitious Championship side. Bournemouth's overall wage bill was in excess of £100m...some of that is non-playing staff and bonuses, and it's missing a whole bunch of players, but doubling the listed wages for most of those players would probably be closer to correct.

    But again, it's only a fatal problem if they let it be. Lerma, Ake and Brooks are highly desirable assets. Billing, King, Steve Cook, Mepham and others would find PL takers as well, I'd imagine. Few teams are willing to press the red button though.
     
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