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The Premier League Thread - Part III

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by TheSecondStain, Apr 27, 2014.

  1. thereisonlyoneno7

    thereisonlyoneno7 Well-Known Member

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    God, a woman who knows how to google!

    PS I'm not being serious - just following the thread :)
     
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    In the decontextualised way we've been presented the emails, it appears so. However, I read an interesting article which pointed out that the woman who he referred to with the rude golfing puns had instigated that and enjoyed the banter. So, what we have is a man making jokes about an ex and carrying on banter with a friend. It isn't quite as evil as denigrating a whole gender - nor does that appear to have been his purpose.

    Let me out this another way. I grew up in St Mary's. I had lots of Indian friends. They could make jokes about me and I about them which, if someone had "leaked to the press" might have seemed awful - but to us it was just being friends.

    The person who leaked this had no one's good in mind. I would rather judge a man on the job he does than the jokes he makes with friends.
     
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  3. thereisonlyoneno7

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    I'm sorry but I do disagree with you. 'Jokes' can seem to be harmless if you're not the butt of them, but they can hurt. It may have been banter with his mates, but things said, even as jokes, normally show a person's underlying feelings. The 'jokes' you shared with your Indian friends were probably only reciprocated by them by wanting to fit in. Trust me, I'm half Indian and half Italian and I would join in with the 'banter' when younger, but only as a self defence mechanism.
     
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    Ok. This would make sense if the Indian kids were the minority,but I was. I never dared say anything really rude - but in context banter was banter. I am talking context here - not this decontextualised desperation to vilify anyone who says anything that seems offensive.

    A bit of an offensive misunderstanding that, actually. The idea that I somehow imposed my ideas on the whole of St Mary's, when I had to had to work hard to fit in.
     
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  5. SaintsForTheWin

    SaintsForTheWin Any holes a goal

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    I have had times where mates have rinsed me, doesn't bother me in the slightest. If you can't laugh at yourself you have no right to dish out the jokes. This mole hill has been blown out of proportion and to assume there is an underlying feelings is ridiculous. Assumptions are the mother of all **** ups.

    Everyone is different and unique which means all people will have different thoughts on this. The media and the constant interviewing of women in the media about this is making it worse. I'm just sick of it hearing it as a headline item on the news. There is a lot worse things going on in the world than a sexist private email.
     
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  6. thereisonlyoneno7

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    I agree that you have to laugh at yourself or you could go insane. I'm not saying I'm this politically correct Nazi (there - I came out with an offensive oxymoron!), but from someone who has had to 'laugh off' offensive jibes as they were 'good humour', I still think all comments have underlying meanings. The older i've got, the more I just shrug though, and realise that if people really hold these views, then I can't change them. What I realise is we are all different, and have different views, some learned, some inherited. Society is far too touchy nowadays, but I think the reason this has come to the forefront is that he was sending these mails on work email, in work time. That is all. Do I believe he is sexist? Probably not, but he was the one trying to fit in with his mate with the banter.
     
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    Deserved a rap on the knuckles, but not being sacked. However, his credibility has gone in the eyes of many. Boils down to: Never Put It In Writing!
     
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    Arsenal is a club that had a GK jersey that looked like a pizza.
     
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    Hopefully not sliced (clearances that is).
     
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  12. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

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    That's not true I know someone who thinks he has a lovely tight little bum and I am talking about an elderly lady who should know better.
     
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  13. - Doing The Lambert Walk

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    Louis van Gaal: "It was retirement, or going to England. My wife Truus wanted me to retire. So we're going to England."
     
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    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    I get the impression that he's not the nicest individual in the world.
     
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    I've picked that up too TSS. If he mentions Dagenham & Redbridge, I'll Hate him! :)
     
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    Yaya Toure has told Manchester City that he wants to leave the club.
     
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    Ooh, where did you get that?
     
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    In a fair few of the papers who are breaking their headlines online.

    Yaya Toure's agent: "City have treated him with disrespect and have really hurt him."
     
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    I wonder in what way they disrespected him? Interesting.
     
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  20. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Just a few weeks ago he was protesting that he wasn't being recognised for his greatness. Unless he's being misrepresented [entirely possible, in fact probable] then I think he is suffering from gross arrogance. Time to get those feet firmly planted back on the ground.
     
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