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The Politics Thread

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. redwhiteandermblue

    redwhiteandermblue Well-Known Member

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    From under a rock, apparently, but in any case someone needs to send them to two-bit thug school, because they're giving two-bit thugs everywhere a bad name.

    Trump has made laughably refutable bald-faced lying so trendy among Republican representatives that it resulted in this, after they repeatedly complained that a newly elected House would make this their first hearing

     
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    The Fox News/Breitbart lot will never see that though, so it's Fake News.
     
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  3. humanbeingincroydon

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    HE'S SHARING FAKE NEWS FROM THE CLINTON NEWS NETWORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ...the sad part is that I've seen that quote used word-for-word without a hint of irony on more than one occasion
     
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  4. deedub93

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    Fekking brilliant Chris Grayling and his department.

    Heads must role. If I did that in contract negotiations, I would be accused of corruption, i.e. taking backhanders and never work again. All tenders must be open and fair. No to mention that the contractor should be able to prove that they are capable of carrying out the work. How the hell can one tender for a shipping contract without any ships?
     
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  5. bigsmithy9

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    Quick ,close that tunnel.Fill it in. Keep 'em out!
     
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  6. humanbeingincroydon

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    No need, Calais already barred Chris Grayling
     
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  7. bigsmithy9

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    Is this politics? Bryce Harper of Washington baseball club has signed a 13 year contract for 330 million dollars.He will be 38 when it ends.Coke prices are going up next season as the spaghetti at Juventus!!!? Harper will play for the Phillies,who have serious fans just like us at Spurs.We both don't like non triers or awful players.
     
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  9. vimhawk

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    The NHS have certainly entered into contracts with "providers" who do not have the medical staff to carry them out at the point of bidding. In one case I know of they didn't have the capability to carry out the contract at the time it went live!
     
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    Good old NHS. My mate has had 3 hip replacements.The first broke while walking along the street in Cheshunt.(Also knee replacements!) Now they tell him he has gangrene and has had to wait until March for treatment. I thought gangrene was nasty.I believe Sheff Wednesday's Derek Dooley had his leg amputated in the fifties after his broken leg turned real nasty. I guess you pay for what you get.....
     
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    Just like with Seaborne Freight, the true providers in these cases are the Tories - as they're providing their mates with lucrative contracts whether or not they're capable (or interested...) in fulfilling them
     
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  12. bigsmithy9

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    All those empty homes wanting to be occupied.....all that lovely rent going down the drain. This is insane!
     
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  13. humanbeingincroydon

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    A brief summary of Chris Grayling's day
    i.) The prisons watchdog condemns the probation changes he oversaw, which have cost the taxpayer a minimum of £171m with estimates saying that figure could rise to £500m
    ii.) The government has to pay Eurotunnel £33m after the Seaborne Freight debacle
    ii.) Theresa may pats him on the back and says "There's a good useful idiot" as that diverts the attention away from her hostile environment policies being judged illegal by the High Court
     
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  14. deedub93

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    Either someone taking back-handers (in which case a criminal investigation should be instigated), ulterior motives or the process is being driven by spreadsheet jockies (management accountants).

    I've always said that the accountants should stick to counting the beans and stop trying to plant the seeds and it doesn't always go down well. Particularly with the accountants. I'm pretty rough and ready despite having professional qualifications, (Spurs tattoos etc.), which is why it's better for me working on a mine rather than in a consultancy. If I work in an office, I always get pulled up for my language. I call a poess a poess and if someone is talking sh!te I tell them.

    I was once in a meeting where the management accountants were presenting a budget to senior management/board members. When the accountants stood up and started with their spreadsheet presentation, I said 'fek me, it's the Brothers Grim'. I was told to shut up by my immediate boss. I listened to the presentation with various comments, mostly practical but often quite sarcastic. As they finished, I said sarcastically, 'Well done, excellent, Hansel and Gretel could not have done a better job'. The CEO pulled me aside after the meeting and said, 'you have no faith in these accountants have you?'. I was honest and said 'No, None'. He said 'don't worry, nor have I.'

    Far too often I've seen contracts given to people who one knows will not be able to carry them out. Generally on price, sometimes over back-handers, sometimes to give local business a chance, which on the face of it is commendable, but not if they are doomed to failure. Alternatively, there are sometimes awarded to friends of those with the power. That is the worst one. Then one cannot criticise them, whatever they do. I think most political appointments fall into this category.

    Grayling wouldn't last 5 minutes in the real world, so it is frustrating that he is given a job that is so important to the running and success of the country. Hopefully he will be sacked from the government, but I'm not holding my breath. Nevertheless, even if he is sacked, there are very few, if any of the available candidates, capable of doing the job in an adequate and professional manner.
     
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    He does have a use then, fall guy.
     
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    On thing I forgot to mention at the time, remember a few days back when India and Pakistan were launching airstrikes against one another? That offered a disturbing insight into 21st century triumphalism because Twitter users from the respective countries were uniting behind hashtags that made it sound far more like one country just beat the other at cricket than the two nations taking military action against one another
     
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    Yes.Pakistan v India at cricket is more serious than war...….!
     
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  18. redwhiteandermblue

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    Every single bit of coverage of Cohen's allegation that Trump committed a felony by conspiring with Cohen to violate campaign finance law seems to have missed one minor detail: that Trump has already admitted it.

    https://www.ajc.com/news/national/t...o-paid-stormy-daniels/Ff3m7qdFdvgzkfuQddcD1O/

    In case that isn't clear, there's this: https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...eimbursed-cohen-for-payment-to-stormy-daniels

    The BBC is particularly egregious--though perhaps understandably as it's another country's news.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47391282

    Still, it was certainly irksome to read

    "US government prosecutors in New York have said that Mr Cohen's payment to Daniels constituted an undisclosed campaign contribution in violation of federal election law - a charge to which Cohen has pleaded guilty.

    If Cohen can help draw a connection between the Daniels payment and the president himself, it could implicate Mr Trump in a crime."

    Trump and Giuliani have already implicated Trump in that crime much better than Cohen could ever do. And besides, why should anyone give a flying f**** how trustworthy Cohen is? He's given his opinion on Trump's character, which should be of absolutely no importance to anybody. He's made statements and provided corroborating evidence to the alleged violation of campaign finance law. The statements matter very little, given other evidence. And he's provided a list of other people that have material knowledge related to the investigation, which can't be ignored simply because he has a history of dishonesty. Whether we ought to trust Cohen, and how far, is completely beside the point.
     
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  19. Please forget about Brexit (directly) for one minute and take this and the linked stories on board.. ..

    'Trevor' has been in the UK for 20 years, served the country as an Army Reservist and is now on bail and facing deportation under the immigration policy created by Theresa May.

    This is a national disgrace of astronomical proportions and needs to be highlighted. Trevor and many like him need our support!!

     
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  20. vimhawk

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    The NHS of course employs a lot of accountants. This is because each group (I won't say the actual titles as this might change next week after another reorganisation) charges other groups for services, equipment, patients they transfer etc. This "internal market" is of course is supposed to save money, but (1) it makes it more difficult to get NHS-wide deals on buying stuff, which presumably has more clout with major pharmas etc and (2) has an astronomical cost in itself in administration. With all the accounting that is done to ensure that each group is cost effective, I'm not sure a big sum has ever been done to work out if the internal market costs more than it saves.

    Another joke is when different NHS groups employ lawyers to prosecute each other. Yes it happens!
     
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