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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    Here's the statement from the South Norwood Animal Rescue & Liberty in response to the Met announcing that a fox killed JFK

    We are aware of the notification this morning by the Met Police that they are discontinuing Operation Takahe, due to new evidence that suggests the injuries to the cats are fox predation post- road traffic accident or other event.

    As you can imagine, this morning’s announcement has come as a surprise and we will be taking advice on how to move forward.

    We consider that the evidence we have gathered over the last three years does indicate human involvement and there is expert opinion to back this up. Over the last three years, we have discounted over 1500 incidents as non-human related.

    The police have said that they will continue to investigate incidents where there is clear evidence of human involvement.

    Our priority at the moment is the victim’s families and we will release a further statement in due course.


    Here's the follow up...

    Further to our statement this morning, we would like to add the following:

    The cats who have been decapitated have had their heads removed in exactly the same manner and place each time. Where we have recovered both head and body, the same small part is missing from each.

    We find it difficult to understand how foxes can replicate this perfectly across a range of victims across a vast geographical area.

    What has also not been explained is why we have no cases in Scotland or Wales, Devon, East Anglia, Suffolk, Rutland, etc given that we have rescue and lost and found contacts there who would notify us if bodies were found.

    In Sussex, there was a case where a rabbit was killed and his body displayed in the same manner as the cats and rabbits and foxes we have attended in other areas. His injuries were a match to these other victims. His liver was placed at the bottom of the garden on a raised stone next to the shed, with a trail of fur leading to it. The next night, the owner’s locked catflap was kicked in and the victim’s collar placed on the stone his liver had been. That’s not foxes.

    In West Wickham, a cat’s collar was returned five months after the cat was killed. That’s not foxes.

    In Watford, a rabbit was killed and six months later, his head was returned to his garden and found by his owner. It was pristine and looked like it had just happened. This wasn’t reported to Police as she was disgusted by their response when reporting the incident. That’s not foxes.

    Early on in the investigation, two years ago, a headless cat was found near his home in Morland Road, Addiscombe. The cat’s head was found in Dalmally Road, upright, in the centre of the garden. The body was missing the same, small piece we had already noted on other victims.

    All four of these victims had injuries identical to those seen elsewhere. If foxes are responsible for the others, then how have they managed all of this? If foxes are responsible for all of the others but not the ones mentioned above, how is it that the injuries are identical?

    Finally, we decided to visibly monitor an area where there had been a spate of attacks over an extended period. In the 10 months since that started, there have been no further incidents in that area. There have however been attacks just outside that area.

    For all of these reasons, we have taken a collective decision this afternoon to continue with the investigation. We now have the skills within our extended team to cover most of what police would be doing anyway.

    The police have stated today that they have never had a full time officer assigned to the case, so we are wondering now how much time has actually been spent trying to solve this.

    That said, we also know of some exceptional police work done at the start of this case and would like to thank the officers who worked on it.

    Finally, our thoughts are with owners tonight who have been confronted by this news without any prior warning. We have tried to get hold of as many of you as possible but if we haven’t got hold of you yet our apologies, we have been inundated and are doing our best under very difficult circumstances.
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

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    I'm trying to work out which is more laughable: the Dire Leader telling the EU to come up with a better Britait plan as if there's any reason for them to do so, or her saying she's always treated their leaders with respect when her entire negotiating strategy has been making idle threats and bleating about not being respected.
     
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  3. As the DUP tail-wagging of the Tory Dog gets ever more apparent.....
     
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  4. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    How's that working out Nigel?
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  5. humanbeingincroydon

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  7. humanbeingincroydon

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    Yup, Murdoch's Hate Comic just sunk to a new low...
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    They also missed the fact that he's wearing an Everton badge.
     
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  9. humanbeingincroydon

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    They also also missed what their newly-appointed Tottenham correspondent has been tweeting for several months...
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    Meanwhile, in Dublin, here's Britait in a nutshell
     
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  10. The RDBD

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    https://www.statista.com/statistics/290866/bbc-news-viewers-reached-quarterly-uk

    Cannot vouch for the raw data sources (number, volume etc) nor
    the stat generation methods, but if vaguely sound that is a
    damning drop in viewing numbers (I assume the "outlier" is due to
    the 2017 general election) .

    If multiplied across all the UK "mainstream media" producers,
    and even across nations, the death gasps cannot be too far
    away from them.

    But I believe there is hope for saving them all (ironically the tech
    they despise could be their saviour) .
     
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  11. humanbeingincroydon

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    The Tories are pushing the hashtag UnfitToGovern

    For some reason they're surprised it's backfired on them...
     
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  12. deedub93

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    And i prefer to fill the car up in gallons rather than litres, you don't need so many<laugh>. And MPG is far more east to understand than litres per 100 km.
     
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  13. humanbeingincroydon

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    America: where gunning somebody down in their own home is a sacking offence...
     
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    After brexit it will be US gallons
     
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  15. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    A few choice comments from the Labour Leave fringe talk

    "(C)alling the second referendum campaign a 'People’s Vote' suggests Remainers thought 'creatures' voted for Brexit in 2016." - Graham Stringer
    “We need to get our UKIP voters back” - Graham Stringer
    "(A)nti democrats have gathered money mostly from abroad in order to campaign for a second Brexit referendum" - Kate Hoey
    "No deal is not a problem. No deal: no problem" - Kate Hoey
    "Our poor prime minister was viciously attacked by the EU last week" - Austin Mitchell
    "They’re not going to let the asteroids hit us and drive us into the abolition of civilisation" - Austin Mitchell's defence of a No Deal Britait
    "We need to make Britain strong again, by Brexit, by bringing the pound down." - Austin Mitchell
    “There’s no such thing as a hard right Tory Brexit” - Brendan Chilton
    "The reason so many young people support staying in the EU is because they have been indoctrinated by Remain-supporting university lecturers" - Kate Hoey
    "There’s nothing that Europe can do for us that we can’t do better for ourselves" - Austin Mitchell
    "Leaving the EU won’t create staff shortages in the NHS because we can just employ more nurses from the Philippines" - Graham Stringer

    Something tells me there may have been more of them talking than people in attendance...

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  16. deedub93

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    Personally I don't believe that remaining or leaving will make much of a difference to the UK economy in the longer term, other factors, such as exchange rates will adjust to compensate. However, my biggest fear is that when the looney left and far right agree you tend to get National Socialism, or Nazi's as the Germans called it in the 30's.
     
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  17. The RDBD

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    I having been doing a thought experiment on this, and I reckon the numbers add up.
    Nothing to do with market reactions etc, just a basic understanding of WTO stuff.

    A "no deal" , under WTO rules, leaves the EU with a trade balance of X, and the
    UK with a balance of Y. I believe that X is positive and Y is negative. ***

    Denote YC as the current value of Y.

    So the question as far as the numbers go is : what is the value of Y (or delta = YC - Y) ??

    If delta is nominal, no problem.
    If Y has increased, then remember that 9 billion pa of credit C offsets
    that (C is no longer paid by the UK to the EU) .

    So the cost under WTO rules to the :

    - EU = X - C
    - UK = Y + C

    The EU need X/Y to be as large as possible.
    However I suspect that the very nature of WTO stuff will
    make that impossible for them to do.

    If delta tends to zero, then the UK have won the numbers game.


    *** I would attempt to do a ball-park calculation of all this,
    but the source data needed I doubt is easily to hand.
     
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  18. The RDBD

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    Socialism is where you find all the major genocidal atrocities of the 20th century.
    Because they are advocates of "big government" . And big govt is exactly the
    scale needed to produce the authoritarian/totalitarian machinery that slaughters
    civilians with industrial efficiency once the group identities are fixed.

    The "small government" that characterises USA "right wing" thought does not.
     
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  19. humanbeingincroydon

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    In before Dull dusts off the idiotic "Hitler was a socialist!!!!11!" argument for the umpteenth time...
     
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