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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. PleaseNotPoll

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    I've just been reading up on the ongoing situation with Michael Cohen, Trump's lawyer.
    The latest revelation is that one of the biggest critics of the FBI raids on his home, hotel and office is actually one of his clients.
    Fox News' Sean Hannity is denying this claim, despite it being made in court and him partially admitting it.

    This has all come about because of a porn star's dispute with a reality TV show host, albeit one that's currently the US President.
    Her lawyer's absolutely destroyed both Trump's lawyer and his lawyer's lawyer.
    The fact that he's also a professional race care driver just makes the whole thing that more bizarre:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Avenatti

    What sort of a Wiki page is divided up into legal career and racing career sections? <laugh>
     
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  2. Hannity is a major Dumpf supporter on Fox and aggressively critcal of the FBI raids - and has now been caught out big time over his denials of links to Cohen as his client!

    You have to wonder what he was so keen to hide. Is there yet another offline payment from Cohen to a porn star? <laugh>
     
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    Cohen has three clients, according to him.

    Client One is Donald Trump, who he arranged a non-disclosure agreement with a porn star for and paid out $130,000.
    Client Two is Elliot Broidy, who he arranged a similar agreement with a Playboy model for, after his client got her pregnant. $1.6m this time.
    Client Three is Sean Hannity. Hmm...
     
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    Getting a little too good.
     
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    The Dire Leader: The last Labour government destroyed the Windrush landing slips!!!!!!

    The Home Office: That's funny, we recall they were destroyed in 2010, when you were Home Secretary.

    The Dire Leader: Ummm...ahhh...something about the decision being made in 2009!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The Home Office: No, the decision was made when moving that, rather than move the cards into storage somewhere else, it would be quicker and cheaper to destroy them.

    The Dire Leader: LABOUR DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The BBC: A bad day in The Commons for Jeremy Corbyn after it was revealed that...

    Anyone who can read a calendar: Hang on...what's this about the boarding cards being destroyed by then-Home Secretary Theresa May, which she's going to great lengths to avoid taking responsibility for?
     
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    Today in Tory Sleaze, it's emerged that the Tories refused to help the French government's investigation into Lycamobile's money laundering - and by complete coincidence Lycamobile just so happened to have been the Tories' biggest corporate, with an estimated £1.5m being given to the Tories, and those same Tories told the HMRC to back off looking into the company when alarm bells were raised.
     
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    In other news, Nick Clegg's former adviser Polly Mackenzie has lifted the lid on what went on behind closed doors in the coalition government (other than destroying the landing cards of Empire Windrush passengers in spite of the Home Office repeatedly saying it was a bloody stupid idea...)

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    How does she think that portrays her in a positive light?
     
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    Here's the main reason

    Of course the point remains that the thread does far more damage to the Lib Dems than it does to the Tories as it not only confirms just how happy they were to sell themselves out in the vain hope of having a "win" to cling onto, but this back-and-forth in the thread...

    ...also reveals the party were so desperate to claim said "win" that they were willing to gamble with people's lives in the hope that the Lords would step in and dig them out of the six-foot hole they'd dug for themselves.

    What makes it even more pathetic is just how tainted their "win" was
     
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    The whole thing was absolute suicide for the Lib Dems.
    Even now, when Labour and the Tories are incredibly unpopular and incompetent, they're miles off the pace and making no gains.
     
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    It's pretty damning when you compare the Lib Dems to the DUP

    The DUP asked for a billion quid, a veto on the Britait position, and the ability to walk away from their arrangement whenever they wanted
    The Lib Dems said "We get to be in power? Great! Where do we sign?" and that was it
     
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  13. Perhaps suggests a degree of political naivety more than megalomania.
    Always worth remembering the circumstances at the time. New Labour was dead and sinking into a post-2007 abyss, taking the country down with it. If there hadn’t have been a coalition we would have been saddled with a no-holds barred Tory administration. The Lib-Dems for all their faults, weaknesses and aspirations did keep some control on the reins.
     
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    If the Lib Dems were forming a coalition in 2017
    rather than 2010, they would have demanded a
    similar price from the Tories that the DUP did
    (and they would have got it) .

    < apples and oranges >
     
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    That's the thing, as there was a hung parliament there was no chance of the Tories having any form of mandate unless they went into coalition.

    The real "What if...?" question has to be what would have happened if Gordon Brown resigned once the result was in, as any attempt at a Labour/Lib Dem coalition was scuppered almost instantly due to the combination of Brown insisting that he remain in power while Ed Balls tried to play hardball. Of course it's easy to predict what would have happened: years of jibes from the press about an unelected Prime Minister named Milliband, although not necessarily the one who got the gig in our timeline...
     
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    A couple of days ago the BBC were all over the Windrush story (well BBC radio at least, which I listened to most of the day). Indeed a couple of times it was mentioned that since some of these problems had been identified several years earlier, how come it was only getting into the news now? The next day the Windrush story had all but disappeared (in favour of the recycling plastic one). Tells you all you need to know! Obviously the plastic story is important, but I am a bit surprised the Windrush story didn't kind of tail off instead of just disappearing.
     
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    Funny how it tailed off just as that archived clip of the Dire Leader haranguing then-Immigration Minister Beverley Hughes to resign on a 2004 edition of Question Time with a few choice phrases such as...
    "(W)e have in this Government Ministers who simply don’t know what is going on in their Department, we have Departments that deny the truth and have to have it dragged out of them."
    "I find it extraordinary that a Minister isn’t willing just to step up to the plate and take responsibility and it seems to me that you don’t have to take a Ministerial job, you don’t have to take the care and the extra pay and so forth."
    "(Y)ou are the minister who is responsible for what happens in your department"

    It's worth pointing out that Hughes did resign - but can anyone see the Dire Leader or Amber Rudderless doing likewise?

    Then again, at least the BBC mentioned the Windrush story at some point - unlike the Lycamobile one...

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    While the BBC are busy pushing Wenger's departure to the fore so they don't have to report about the Windrush scandal, her former adviser Nick Timothy wrote an article for the Torygraph claiming that the Dire Leader was opposed to the "Go home" vans and the wording on the vans was okayed without her knowledge or consent while she was in Switzerland on holiday (source: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...breaking-should-not-used-excuse-stop-sensible)

    Sources at the Home Office rapidly said that Timothy's version of events was complete bollocks, as the Dire Leader was in contact with them while she was on holiday and told them exactly what wording should be used (source: http://uk.businessinsider.com/theresa-may-nick-timothy-home-office-go-home-vans-windrush-2018-4)

    For some strange reason, Nick Timothy has since deleted his Twitter account...
     
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