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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. vimhawk

    vimhawk Well-Known Member

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    I think the wall is to stop Mexican immigrants, not killers. The travel ban on certain Muslim countries (not those countries where terrorists have previously come from mind you) is apparently the way to keep Americans safe. Which means that only Americans are allowed to kill Americans apparently. That's ok. And it's their right to arm themselves to do so, as it keeps them safer. The rights of people getting shot (such as the right not to be shot) are not so important.
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

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    I'm sure a lot of prisons say they build wars to keep the criminals out...
     
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  3. vimhawk

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    Latest employment figures out showing more people in work than ever before. Good stuff. But that is such a blunt instrument of measurement. Also mentioned pay increases increasing. Why don't they also release:

    1. The proportion of those in "work" on zero hours contracts.
    2. The proportion of those in work on minimum wage.
    3. The proportion of those in work receiving pay increases less than inflation.

    Because it might be that more people are working, but if the proportion on the minimum wage is increasing, then it's not so good. Similarly if pay rises are less than inflation then obviously people's standard of living is falling. Also interested to know what proportion of people in full time work are having to claim benefits to make ends meet - this is also not good and effectively a subsidy from the government that allows lower pay. Proportions may be better than averages because a small number of huge pay increases of course pulls up the average that the majority may not be benefiting from.
     
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  4. The RDBD

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    Because that data comes from the work provider, not the govt.

    However I am of the school of thought that the "worker" is
    now the basic unit of human resource, and that an employee is
    a worker whose work provider (the employer) undertakes
    certain liabilities (holiday pay etc) .

    So to get on the road to #1, work providers IMHO should be
    required by law to state the total number of workers they are
    using, and the number of employees they have.

    Then you can start to define broad classes of service type
    (zero hours etc) for workers and get the % figures.

    This of course would be seriously resisted by Big Business (TM) ,
    as it would expose those who are exploiting worker/tax law to
    the letter on an industrial scale.
     
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  5. humanbeingincroydon

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    No doubt because of the high volume of volunteers and interns they have on the books.

    This is hardly new, of course: a decade ago there was one company that always advertised in the Grauniad that they had an opening for a three month internship while stating that, if the intern proved capable, their position would become permanent. And guess which ad reappeared three months later? And three months after that? And so on...
     
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  6. The RDBD

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    Both of those are a worker class of service
    just like zero hours etc.


    "This is hardly new, of course: a decade ago there was one company that always advertised in the Grauniad that they had an opening for a three month internship while stating that, if the intern proved capable, their position would become permanent. And guess which ad reappeared three months later? And three months after that? And so on"

    In the age of data analytics, that is easy to detect
    (and therefore potentially punish) .
     
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  7. humanbeingincroydon

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    In a move that will surprise precisely nobody, The Death of Stalin has been banned in Russia.

    However, as it was already released in the US late last year, the orange overlord won't be able to follow Putin's orders this time.
     
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  8. PleaseNotPoll

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    Some revolvers have less and some more, but it tends to be 5 or 6 with some odd ones going up to 8 or more.
    My guess would be that he reloaded using speedloaders and got off plenty of shots before anyone got there.
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  9. redwhiteandermblue

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    As long as Wall Street pockets profits and socializes losses, we can expect an ever wilder boom-bust ride.
     
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    Nobody has asked this question.Where did a 15 year old get hold of a gun.....?
     
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  11. PleaseNotPoll

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    In Kentucky? Walmart, maybe?
    It was probably a relative's.
     
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  12. Number 1 Jasper

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    By the Grip ( or whatever it's called ) ?
     
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    From Charlton Hestons' cold dead hand ??
     
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  14. littleDinosaurLuke

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    The population has increased by 10 million in the last 20 years so it's inevitable that the number of people in work will have increased.
    Add to that the growth of part time jobs, job sharing etc and changes in employment law which have enabled many women to go out to work/remain in work who would not have done so in the past.
    And keeping the millions of students out of the unemployment figures is misleading too. So many young people go into further education to do fairly pointless courses because there are no jobs available for them.
    Lies, damn lies and statistics.
     
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  15. redwhiteandermblue

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    I had a friend (seems unlikely, I know) whose parents sent her to gun camp at the age of twelve. They showed her a picture of a bird and asked if she could shoot it. "I don't see why not," she said.

    It was a bald eagle.
     
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  16. humanbeingincroydon

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    Another visit to the hate mines, this time for their take on the Presidents Club scandal...

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  17. deedub93

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    Much ado about nothing. Total over reaction about a glorified stag night earning money for charity. Women there out of choice and surely not that naïve to believe that waitresses at the Dorchester earn over £100 an hour.

    There are much more important issues that the press should be concentrating on like equal pay for women for doing the same job. What next, ban strip clubs and kissograms? PC gone mad.
     
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  18. humanbeingincroydon

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    Somehow not getting widespread coverage: a Michigan man was arrested having sent several death threats to CNN journalists including the phrases “Fake news. I’m coming to gun you all down” and “I am on my way right now to gun the ****in’ CNN cast down. **** you.”

    Somehow managing to make this situation even worse is the fact the comments were made public on Monday evening - and on Tuesday the orange overlord tweeted the phrase "Fake news CNN" in spite of yet another clear link between his rhetoric and domestic terrorists.
     
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  19. PleaseNotPoll

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    This is a feature, not a bug.

    Trump's a complete idiot, though. His latest comments about fighting back against the Russia investigation make that incredibly clear.
    His defence against obstruction charges is that he did it, but they made him angry or something.
    He keeps admitting to something that he hasn't even been charged with yet. Utter moron.
     
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  20. humanbeingincroydon

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