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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. vimhawk

    vimhawk Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely, the assumption of innocence until proven otherwise has most certainly been suspended for certain (alleged) offences.
     
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  2. The RDBD

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    Refuting such charges without the accusers claims
    collapsing in a heap, is impossible unless you have
    a video archive containing every moment of your life.
     
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  3. littleDinosaurLuke

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    So Freddie Garrity from Freddie and the Dreamers looks like he's going to claim asylum in Belgium and run the Catalan government in exile.
    There is a precedent for this during Franco's time.
    How's all this going to end?
     
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  4. The RDBD

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    I like it.
     
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  5. bigsmithy9

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    For God's sake.Please don't put politics before hamburgers in America!
     
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  6. humanbeingincroydon

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    A few details are starting to leak from the Tory sex pest document, with the relevant terms used below

    Nigel Evans, MP for Ribble Valley who has previously faced charges of sexual assault - inappropriate with male researchers - long history
    Damain Green, First Secretary - Ashley Madison - handsy at parties
    Liam Fox, International Trade Secretary - Adam Werrity
    Chris Heaton-Harris, Tory whip who sent letters to universities demanding to know what they were teaching about Britait - handsy
    George Hollingbury, the Dire Leader's private secretary - inappropriate with female researchers -handsy in taxis
    Guy Opperman, undersecretary for Pensions and Financial Inclusion - nicknamed "Guy Copperfeel" - handsy with females
    Bob Stewart, MP for Beckenham - perpetually intoxicated and very inappropriate with women
     
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  7. The RDBD

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    Deselecty.
     
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  8. humanbeingincroydon

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    I get the feeling the papers will focus on the tittle-tattle aspects rather than the seriously nasty things that are on the list - a feeling not helped by the front pages leading with Michael Fallon touching Julia Hartley-Brewer on the knee at a party once, even though the version of the list doing the rounds on Twitter says very different things about Fallon.
     
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  9. PleaseNotPoll

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    Blackmail document is more accurate. Funny how that's not being mentioned, isn't it?
    It contains things like consensual sexual acts between adults. Why would that be on there, if it's about being a sex pest?
     
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  10. humanbeingincroydon

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    Probably something to do with blackmail being illegal in this country.

    As I said in my last post, the papers will focus on the tittle-tattle about extra-marital affairs and ignore the stuff that's illegal, just like they did when the expenses scandal broke and the papers focused on biscuits and gravel rather than MPs claiming tens of thousands of pounds for houses they didn't own.
     
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  11. humanbeingincroydon

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  12. bigsmithy9

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    Another loonie run down pedestrians.At least 6 dead.New York this time!
     
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  13. humanbeingincroydon

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    In case there were members of the alt-right who weren't triggered by Wolfenstein II, there's an ingame collectible that directly mocks Richard Spencer

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  14. redwhiteandermblue

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    http://www.bbc.com/news/world/us_and_canada T

    The lead story today on the BBC concerning the Mueller investigation is
    "George Papadopoulos: Trump trashes 'low level' indicted aide"

    Just curious whether they're pro-Russian, pro-evil, on the take or some combination of the three. The head of the Trump campaign is indicted for crimes against the United States and one of his foreign policy advisers pleads guilty to lying about contacts with the Russian government, and they make Trump's buffoonish attempt at spin the headline? They make Fox news coverage look respectable. Tbf, the best coverage I've seen so far is from the Guardian.

    And while I'm trashing the BBC:
    "Manafort hire shows bad judgement"

    Not at all. It was perfectly obvious to anyone with the slightest interest in the subject that Paul Manafort had no ethics and deep Russia connections. The Tooth Fairy is a very reasonable belief next to the idea that Trump didn't hire this man precisely for those qualities. The person in the administration with the longest history of no ethics and shady Russian connections is Trump.
     
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  15. Appreciate that events in NYC yesterday afternoon will have hit the headlines, but the Trump Campaign corruption issues have disappeared from sight on the BBC website.......

    And on that subject and your spot-on comments above, I did find the following quotes particularly amusing and frustrating in equal measure:

    Trump tweeted:
    "Few people knew the young, low level volunteer named George, who has already proven to be a liar. Check the DEMS!"
    Papadopoulos appears in a photo that Mr Trump tweeted of himself in March 2016 hosting a national security meeting with his foreign policy team.

    So that effectively says that Trump allows low level, unknown, proven liars to form part of his Foreign Policy team...... and the worrying thing is that this will probably get glossed over! <doh>
     
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  16. humanbeingincroydon

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    The BBC did a fine job of burying the news they don't like yesterday, with no mention whatsoever of the Tory Sleaze 36 (actually it's 40, but whatever...) but they sure made a lot out of a Bex Bailey being raped by a Labour employee (not an MP, as she herself stated, but an employee) in 2011 as well as the Manafort/Papadopoulos story vanishing as fast as Chelsea's defence at the Stadio Olimpico.
     
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  17. vimhawk

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    Following the latest atrocity in New York, President Idiot has ordered Homeland Security to step up vetting measures, after all the attacker was an immigrant. He killed 8 people, which is clearly a tragedy.

    However no changes have been ordered to gun laws, despite the Las Vegas shooting, not by an immigrant, that killed 58 people. Well that's sort of seven times worse isn't it? Also I was shocked to hear that on average between 2011 and 2015, 93 people PER DAY are killed by guns in the States. That sounds like a ludicrously high number doesn't it, so here are the figures https://everytownresearch.org/gun-violence-by-the-numbers/ that includes 32 homicides and 58 suicides. But that's OK of course because Americans must have the right to defend themselves (does n't say much for the rights of people that get shot does it!)
     
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  18. humanbeingincroydon

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    As I've said many, many times to gun nuts when they bring up the "right to defend ourselves" argument, if they're worried about burglars breaking into their house they can pick up a baseball bat at Dick's Sporting Goods for $20. At that point they start ranting about how criminals have guns, somehow oblivious to the fact that in doing so they're destroying their own argument about their Second Amendment rights.
     
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    Don't know why the terrorists do this, they are just strengthening Trumps hand. Leave him to his own ends and he will destroy himself without any outside interference.
     
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  20. humanbeingincroydon

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    On the other side of the coin, though, Trump is strengthening theirs.
     
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