The Politics Thread

Tell me what was murky?

By the way the SNP is a vehicle for Independence I like many SNP members are not in love with our top table but they are trying to appeal across Scotland. It is not about the SNP.

 

From the BBC:
The pound has fallen further in value against the US dollar - slumping 1.5% to $1.0570.
That's after the Bank of England announced it would buy government bonds to stabilise the market.

Has he gone yet?

 

Sadly, he didn;t try to suggest she hold the gun the other way around...

 

Her whole image is manufactured.
She probably should've skipped this **** or put some practice in.
Looks like she's never been to the range before, which is a poor look for her voters.

 

What was murky? Alex Salmond being taken to court, for abusing his position then acquitted and the Scottish govt being investigated for withholding evidence, with Salmond explicitly accusing Sturgeon (all named after fish ???) of lying. Sounds murky to me.

 

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Murky means of course unclear. My question was genuine because I wasn't sure what they might have said in the English media. But we have to accept that Salmond was innocent and of course Westminster would be delighted to discredit him so it remains unclear. Nicola Sturgeon has majored on things like Womens rights and LGBT and brought in some highly contraversial laws and party rules on gender balance and transgender. Probably opposed by the majority of SNP members.
I have attended a number of SNP conferences in Glasgow, Edinburgh and Aberdeen and it's very clear that the SNP membership is far more radical than the people in the Ministerial posts or really the Top Table, because people like Mairi Black MSP are still there. Overall the membership realises that being radical in policy is not the way to to go atm because in order to obtain Independence we need to attract the vote of so called moderates. Assuming Scotland doesn't just declare Independence as in theory it could do, although that is an extremely unlikely event.

EDIT: That doesen't read right about Mairi Black. Mairi is a radical and a huge favourite of the SNP membership.

 

While I am on the subject a point that is scracely mentioned, especially in England, is the fact that an Independent Scotland would have no reason to elect an SNP government and all the parties would have to remake themselves. The liklihood would be, IMO, that a reformed Scottish Labour Party would have a big appeal after Independence. Prior to Independence, Labour is so much dead meat.

 

They're not very bright so they probably wouldn't notice They would just see their 'girl' shootin' and rootin' tootin' firing that rifle Yahoo! Yahoo! and back to power she goes.

 

Very, but there are still far too many out there.
Anyone that deluded should have electoral voting rights removed for life!

 

It's one of the things that worries me about Scottish independence.
I mean that from the perspective of Scotland too, not England, London or my own.

Scotland has had decades of being able to blame the Union for any woes.
A lot of that is completely accurate and understandable, of course, but it's a big part of it's politics.
Actually gaining independence would result in almost a reset of the whole system.

Why's that a bad thing? It isn't, necessarily.
It does leave the door open for parties that the country wouldn't currently accept, though.
Would it still be FPTP? Would Scotland accept a Trump/Bolsonaro/Orban/Meloni-type leader?
Rejoin the EU or no? Go all Switzerland or get massively influenced by foreign cash?

 

The party of pensioners.

 

Apparently, the tax cuts are going to be paid for by 'efficiency savings' in front line services...







...is that ****ing right, Liz?

 

Timing is everything!
Where have I seen Adam Kirby before?

 

This is incompetence on a whole new scale. Interesting that Pension Funds are so exposed to margin calls these days. They have derivatives to manage interest rate risks but apparently don't have enough cash to cover losses when rates rise dramatically.

 

They probably thought that things wouldn't get this bad, this quickly.
I'm not going to pretend that I know enough about the subject to have an informed opinion, though.

It all strikes me as a little bit 2008, to be honest.
Financial risk taking being rewarded financially, then protected by other people's money if it goes wrong.
Nothing was learned because nothing was lost to those in control of it all.

 

Scotland already has a PR system it was designed to prevent one party winning but the popularity of the SNP has beaten that.
Scotland hasn't elected a Tory gov. since the 1950's it's very unlikely that a right wing gov. would get in in an Independent Scotland. I would expect Scotland to apply for membership of the EU. Brexit has switched more voters to the SNP because as you probably know 60+% of Scots voted to remain. There were some SNP voters who voted for Brexit but overall the SNP gains.
Of course what an Independent Scotland would vote for in detail is not know but the model would be Scandinavia which is its natural home. If you turn the world map upside down you get a much clearer idea of Scotland's place in the world. The clue to all of this is to look at the Scottish parliament and how it works. Scottish Tories (the traditional ones at least) are a different animal to the English Tories, they are much more community minded. I have spoken to Tory MSPs and thought surley he is a Labour man, but no he's a Scottish Tory.

 

International laughing stock...

 

The back story is of course those opaque 'Think Tanks' & neo-Liberal financiers that own Truss and Kwarteng. It is their policies that the Gov is pursuing, so it would be reasonable to assume that this outcome is exactly what they were planning for.

 

They bet on it. Literally.
****ing traitors.