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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. Alfie Conn

    Alfie Conn Well-Known Member

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    Believe me organising a ballot for industrial action has more strings than a Thunderbirds puppet thanks to the Tories but for £25 you can vote for a new leader of Britain if you live overseas without any checks on who you are or what you are
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

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    Gee, I wonder why they took that down...?
     
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  3. Alfie Conn

    Alfie Conn Well-Known Member

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    Starmer has just sacked his shadow transport minister for standing with the RMT strikers , Labour formed by trade unions and ordinary people for a voice in parliament, if I hadn't already torn up my labour party ticket after what he did to Corbyn I would be doing it now , **** off Starmer you are a Tory
     
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  4. PleaseNotPoll

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    He was sacked for an unapproved media appearance and creating policy on the spot.
    Judging by his twitter feed, I suspect he may have done it deliberately.
     
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    That's the excuse...but it was made very clear by Starmer that MPs shouldn't attend picket lines.
    Starmer's Labour Party claim to "always stand up for working people fighting for better pay, terms and conditions at work" yet they have banned shadow cabinet members from going to picket lines to actually show support.

    Shameful in my opinion.

    Shop workers, delivery staff, workers in the service and food industries, transport workers, health workers, education workers, efuse workers, council workers, social services workers etc all worked throughout covid, and throughout the last 12 years of austerity with little or no pay rises and massive job insecurity and now bills have sky rocketed forcing people to strike instead of sinking, Labour's leader should be backing and supporting us.

    Have never voted Tory or Lib Dem and never will but WTF is the point of supporting Labour if they they refuse to support us?

    Labour ****ed my pension in 2008 meaning that instead of retiring at 60 with a semi decent pension I have to work til I am 65 to get a worse pension.

    Politics in this country is so right wing it's frightening and immoral imo.
     
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    <applause>
     
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  7. PleaseNotPoll

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    There's a vast difference between agreeing with and backing someone and standing on a picket line.
    It's about not quite as big as the difference between Labour and the Tories, though.
    One doesn't want it's shadow cabinet at these protests, while the other wants to ban them.

    There's no point in performative politics if you can't get elected.
    Corbyn would be happy for everyone to be out there with the strikers.
    He also handed the Tories an enormous majority and the ability to do whatever the **** they like.
    I agree with this article from nearly a week ago:
    https://www.politicshome.com/news/a...er-divides-shadow-front-benchers-amid-strikes

    How does physically standing alongside the strikers help anyone in this case?
    It just allows the media to do exactly what they're doing now and damages the Labour Party.
    The Tories couldn't pay for this kind of **** and I'm sure they've tried.
     
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  9. Alfie Conn

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    Think you'll find the in the Forde report that a faction in the labour party had a good say in helping the Tories in and along with Starmers broken promises that he stood for the leadership on , the man is just plain dishonest and not my idea of a labour leader
     
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    I wish it were not true but my idea of a labour leader can't win an election. Starmer probably can.
     
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    You could be right but as a life long trade unionist I cannot back a labour leader that courts the daily mail readers vote because it is a total waste of time and with luck the will be dead by the time the next election, the labour party has haemorrhaged Members over the last couple of years and in my opinion it's down to him and his cronies
     
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    Have you considered getting on all fours and barking like a dog? Asking for a media mogul...
     
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    This is what is so aggravating about Starmer (well, one of the things...) he has spent two years choosing the path that he thinks will stop the Daily Wail gunning for him that he has refused to take aim at open goals such Hancock or Schapps lining theirs and their mates' pockets with PPE contracts, and that course proved to be for naught when the Wail devoted two ****ing weeks to how Starmer had a beer in Durham after lockdown was lifted and had Durham police knocking on his door - a story which Starmer managed to make worse by not simply mentioning that fact

    And considering how many things will now be swept under the "That was under different leadership" rug, what has he gained from it?
     
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    Every time I see Rachel Reeves on TV saying she is a labour MP I get a bit sick in my mouth
     
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    Coincidentally, earlier this week she was on TV making up policy on the fly, specifically about rail nationalisation

    So if Tarry gets sacked for making up policy, why hasn't Reeves?
     
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