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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Wandering Yid, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. Treble

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    My point exactly.

    I'm watching the main news channels and in all my days I've never seen commentators talking about council election results like they're parliamentary elections, until now.

    Of course these results matter but mainly for the fact the Tories are hemorrhaging votes. However how you interpret them is not a like for like with a GE. The question is, where will those votes go in a GE?

    I also think not having an absolute landslide for Labour in these council elections is a good thing. For one, a landslide creates complacency, secondly it makes people hesitate and think again or just not bother, and thirdly you're at risk of peaking too soon. It's good Labour still feel they have a way to go so they continue to push forward.
     
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  2. humanbeingincroydon

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    A quick summary of Douglas Ross' commitment to a position

    De Pfeffel should go if he did turn Downing Street into the Groucho Club

    ...oh wait, he should stay and I'm not saying that because Rees Mogg left a note on my desk with a hefty undertone of "Shut the **** up" to it

    ...actually it's De Pfeffel's fault that we got hammered in the local elections, and solely his fault and nothing to do with me being a coward
     
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  3. Alfie Conn

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    In local elections Labour take Barnet

    IMG_20220506_191910.jpg
     
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  4. humanbeingincroydon

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    I take it this is one of those "Woke mobs" we keep hearing about...
     
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  5. humanbeingincroydon

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    Has anyone seen his self-awareness lately?
     
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  6. PowerSpurs

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    Dog takes a piss on the polling Station door on the way out....
     
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  7. KingHotspur

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    Because it hasn’t.
     
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  8. humanbeingincroydon

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    Except for when a bunch of boneheads who think shoving a flare up their backside makes them really, really clever bellow IT'S COMING HOME at fans of any other team at the last two tournaments, or people who dare suggest England only got to the WC semis due to a piss easy draw
     
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  9. humanbeingincroydon

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    Oh no, who could have possibly known that Paul Joseph ****stain was a colossal racist...?
     
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  10. humanbeingincroydon

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    So after a blatant stitch-up where voting cards weren't set out to several Labour-voting parts of the borough for the referendum on whether Croydon should have an elected mayor, the Tory candidate was elected Mayor of Croydon - with a majority of little over 600, with a turnout of barely 20%

    And, of course, I've seen Tory Twitter feeds claiming they've taken control of Croydon from the Labour council when the council election still hasn't finished counting because they've decided that they really, really want to be Nevada

    And that's before the fact the Electoral Commission really should overturn every single result where "Local Conservatives" was listed on the ballot due to that being electoral fraud
     
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  11. KingHotspur

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    Every club/country has idiots, you can’t just tarnish anyone who likes it’s coming home with the same brush as the idiotic minority.

    If that’s the case then all us Spurs fans should be called racists because some muppet threw a banana at Aubameyang
     
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  12. humanbeingincroydon

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    Except it isn't just the fans, as The FA are just as guilty of tubthumping about how IT'S COMING HOME after England snatch a late winner against the footballing giants of Tunisia
     
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  13. humanbeingincroydon

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    Yeah, but hear me out: chorizo
     
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  14. KingHotspur

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    Why does that harmless phrase trigger you so much?

    It’s just a bit of fun and tbh it’s more self deprecating than anything
     
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  15. humanbeingincroydon

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    So it's "harmless" when huge groups of boneheads are using it as their rallying cry while causing tens of thousands of pounds worth of property damage now? Is that based on the same logic of saying that the Tories losing 400+ councils this week is bad news for Labour?

    Triumphalism is neither harmless nor self-deprecating, and that's what the thickos bellowing IT'S COMING HOME are - and the fact that The Sun is now trying to claim ownership on a son that's been bastardised into what it currently is is a cause for concern
     
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  16. PleaseNotPoll

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    There are countries with far worse national anthems, never mind fan chants.
    Italy's murder the Poles and Cossacks, victory is a slave to Rome one, for example.
    Should that be banned?
     
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  17. humanbeingincroydon

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    And how many of those are being used as ammunition for some culture war bullshit?
     
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  18. PleaseNotPoll

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    If it wasn't that then it would be something else.
    There's nothing about the song itself that should draw it into such stupid stories.
     
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  19. humanbeingincroydon

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    And this is the problem, once it mutated into some tubthumping anthem about how brilliant England are - which bastardises the entire point of the song - of course there's going to be a point where
    i.) The song's refrain is something that walking thumbs scream in people's faces, purple with rage and eight cans of Stella
    ii.) Murdoch's Hate Comic makes up a story for them to sinks its tentacles into (seriously, the front page headline actually contained the phrase "FA flakes", FFS)

    That hasn't happened with something like World in Motion or Vindaloo because neither really has a refrain that can be twisted into some artery-bulging threat (or, in Vindaloo's case, because people would prefer to forget that bloody song exists...) and similar can be said about other songs which pop in and out of the rotation like Sweet Caroline or Seven Nation Army
     
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  20. PleaseNotPoll

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    I take it that you don't watch much boxing?

    As for Seven Nation Army, nobody actually sings the words to it.
    It opens with "I'm going to fight 'em all", so that's probably for the best.

    Three Lions is fine.
    You're not even complaining about the song, but some of the people that like it.
     
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