I've been to America once in the early 90s- my uncle emigrated to Chicago in the late 50s. Can't say there was much there that I would go back for because it is a troubled society full of jealousy, disappointment, fear, loathing and ignorance. Apart from that, they are lovely people.
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I spend about two months a year working there. It's definitely got big problems, but, guns aside, no worse than ours from my perspective.
The thing that miff's me are the people who go OTT about this (Radio/Facebook/Social media).
"Oh I feel sick to the stomach" or "This is a nightmare".....
The majority of these people have never even been to America! Most have only ever been to Disneyland or Universal studio's or a romatic weekend in New York? What the @@@@ do they know of the people in Ohio or Idaho? or the many in Pittsburgh who have lost jobs? I will tell you Sweet FA. Yet the all think they know what is best for the people of the U.S, they are all experts on American politics.
Why?
Because the BBC/SKY and the rest of the media who have from day one not been Impartial and have an agenda.
Even today after Trumpton won they spent the whole day replaying what he said in his rallies rather than moving forward like the would have if Hillary had won.
Don't get me wrong I have listened to Trump and think he comes across as an arrogant tit but I wish these people would stop going ott.
"Oh I feel sick to the stomach" or "This is a nightmare".....
The majority of these people have never even been to America! Most have only ever been to Disneyland or Universal studio's or a romatic weekend in New York? What the @@@@ do they know of the people in Ohio or Idaho? or the many in Pittsburgh who have lost jobs? I will tell you Sweet FA. Yet the all think they know what is best for the people of the U.S, they are all experts on American politics.
Why?
Because the BBC/SKY and the rest of the media who have from day one not been Impartial and have an agenda.
Even today after Trumpton won they spent the whole day replaying what he said in his rallies rather than moving forward like the would have if Hillary had won.
Don't get me wrong I have listened to Trump and think he comes across as an arrogant tit but I wish these people would stop going ott.
Totally agree. 7 people die in a train crash here but it's nothing compared to Trump. I should have posted that on Facebook.
Just musing on "President Trump". (That still sounds weird!).
I hope that those people who were making a protest vote against the old way of doing politics in the US, and the "political elite" who never listened to ordinary people don't end up with a group of long-term "political elite" Republicans holding onto the levers of power behind Trumps back. It probably wasn't what they were hoping for, but I suspect that's what they'll end up with. We'll see.
I hope that those people who were making a protest vote against the old way of doing politics in the US, and the "political elite" who never listened to ordinary people don't end up with a group of long-term "political elite" Republicans holding onto the levers of power behind Trumps back. It probably wasn't what they were hoping for, but I suspect that's what they'll end up with. We'll see.
Isn't it interesting how both Brexit and Trump have produced the 'anti-result' the social media worshippers so detest and have not been backwards in coming forward to 'vent their spleens' over. Street protests etc. It seems that the 'Millennials' are a pampered generation who have an over-inflated sense of entitlement and can't accept losing. Especially heart-warming to see so many 'celebs' wailing and gnashing.
Until systems are changed to reflect the vote more fairly this will continue, even Labour had the chance to change it but enjoyed the benefits of total power the current system gave and refused to give that up.
As for Trump, the Yanks came up with two of the most detestable characters imaginable so it's hard not to say they deserve him...
Until systems are changed to reflect the vote more fairly this will continue, even Labour had the chance to change it but enjoyed the benefits of total power the current system gave and refused to give that up.
As for Trump, the Yanks came up with two of the most detestable characters imaginable so it's hard not to say they deserve him...
It's the Millennials that give me hope. They didn't vote for Trump or Brexit. The sooner they take over the better.
So May gets 10 minutes as the 11th world leader Trump phoned, and Farage gets an hour face to face in New York. Johnson, who called him a lunatic a few months ago, now thinks the sun shines out of his arse. The British ambassador to the US thinks Britain can influence and manipulate Trump, shame the document he sent saying this has been leaked.
May also says that Remembrance Day is not just about those who have sacrificed life and health in the past, but also all those serving in the present (specifically those fighting ISIS). Why did she feel the need to say this?
May also says that Remembrance Day is not just about those who have sacrificed life and health in the past, but also all those serving in the present (specifically those fighting ISIS). Why did she feel the need to say this?
Everyone has thought Trump is some kind of idiot but he's outsmarted them all, our politicians should be asking themselves why. Farage, in his own way, did the same with Brexit despite the handicap of BoJo and Gove. Why? They both saw what was happening in their own countries away from the 'bubble' of the big cities, the voting patterns reflect this in both elections and Brexit. It should concern everyone that so many politicians spent their time demonizing them and people who voted for them rather than offering solutions to the masses that would have averted such results...
The generation that was largely responsible for voting in Trump, is the same generation that was smoking pot, proclaiming free love, wearing flowers and fighting police in the streets in revolt over the Vietnam war
It was only ever a small but very visible minority who embraced the counter culture Goldie. Otherwise we wouldn't have had Nixon, Reagan, Thatcher etc. The ones who voted Trump in are those who didn't go to college, worked in a factory or on a farm largely in the same place all their lives, and feel the world has left them behind.
There will be a majority of the Millenials who fall into the same category, the ones we don't hear about now.
All the polling (yes, I know) suggested that younger voters would have delivered a landslide to Sanders, had they got the chance.