May reminds me uncannily of the worst politician I have ever seen. Where these people come from and how they get to be Prime Ministers amazes me. She seems to have avoided taking any substantial position on Brexit, and hidden quietly behind Cameron, to his obvious frustration. Her political views seem to vary from one pronouncement to the next. Does anyone really know what she truly believes in apart from her own advancement?
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Probably not much. However she is better equipped to run the country than comrade Corbyn.
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You are right Col, I am programmed to find fault. I have voted Tory in the past, just the once. Man did I feel dirty afterwards.
Honest question mate, why did you think it was superb? I felt she said a lot of things which will be popular, because nobody could deny the seeming sentiment, but I have no idea what they meant in practice. If she is really turning the Tories into a spending, interventionist party in Government it will be a revolution for the Tories, but Blair/Brown for the rest of us.
Why anyone should think she will be competent is beyond me. She had six years to influence the immigration figures as the Secretary of State responsible. Last year there was net migration from the EU of 172,000. Fair enough, nothing she could do about that. Net migration from non EU countries was 191,000, over which she had full control. Now she has passed the problem on to Amber Rudd, a woman who's judgement is so faulty she was once married to the twattish AA Gill ( a man so self obsessed he can't even share his first name). She wants to palm it off on to business. Are our prisons, police forces and border controls better now than when May took responsibility for them in 2010?
Here's her voting record. Not very revealing really, other than to confirm that she is a Tory.
https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10426/theresa_may/maidenhead/votes
No, the speech was amazing as speeches go.So the speech wasn't just amazing. It was (literally) unbelievable.
Owen Smith, not a man I listen to often, just made a good point on the radio. Easy thing for May to do to prove her 'ordinary working people' credentials. Reverse the cuts to universal tax credits.
Yet as I understand it, you make a good living out of working for a multinational pharmaceutical company that presumably charges extortionate amounts for its medical products, such that it takes cures out of the reach of many ordinary working people? Isn't that a touch hypocritical, Stan?
Mrs May isn't comfortable standing on a stage making speeches. Her body language betrays that and her phrasing is extremely artificial sometimes. I wish she would stop listening to whoever is coaching her and just be herself. That would be far more convincing.
I'm quite happy for a human being to be standing there instead of a well-groomed, overtrained PR figure. I'm quite happy for her strengths to be just getting on with things rather than bombarding us with spin all the time.
The speech itself doesn't warrant the gushing fanboy response it's been getting. Full of platitudes that I can agree with 100% and empty of specifics that demonstrate how those platitudes will be delivered. But then, it is a party conference and not a series of ministerial announcements.
Let's wait for specifics before getting too excited, eh? I"m going to judge this government by what actually happens, not what they say.
Remember how we all feel when Tony tells us we're going to be promoted this year, but doesn't say how?
I'm quite happy for a human being to be standing there instead of a well-groomed, overtrained PR figure. I'm quite happy for her strengths to be just getting on with things rather than bombarding us with spin all the time.
The speech itself doesn't warrant the gushing fanboy response it's been getting. Full of platitudes that I can agree with 100% and empty of specifics that demonstrate how those platitudes will be delivered. But then, it is a party conference and not a series of ministerial announcements.
Let's wait for specifics before getting too excited, eh? I"m going to judge this government by what actually happens, not what they say.
Remember how we all feel when Tony tells us we're going to be promoted this year, but doesn't say how?
We are all hypocrites Goldie, and I have never hidden my amazing capacity for doublethink. I rather enjoy it.
At least my company doesn't make guns. And, as you well know, the 'ordinary working people' of this country don't pay for medicines, they can afford anything the Government is prepared to pay for. And apparently we shouldn't care less about citizens of other countries, because doing so makes us 'citizens of nowhere', according to May.
Obviously I can't vote Tory again, now they are the anti business party, the party of 'ordinary working people', which apparently I'm not one of, and patriots, which I am not except when it comes to sport.
I like the idea of worker representation on company boards. Let's keep quiet about the fact that the French and Germans have had this for decades.
Have you seen this? It's a bit old now, and was explicitly a survey (160,000!) of white British people. Col was right, I am definitely part of the elite. May seems to be after the 'traditional working class' of which there aren't all that many.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_British_Class_Survey
Relieved to hear your company doesn't make guns, Stan. Resist any move at board level to change that.
I'm sure you're a patriot deep down, and not one of the "No borders, no nation" brigade.
I suspect the London clubs have quite a lot of elite status fans based on earning capacity. It may be different in Sunderland.
You can console yourself with this fact. If you lose your job, and find yourself sleeping in doorways on Oxford Street...you'll be able to vote for Theresa May's Tories!
Just heard a brief interview with Neil Hamilton (no friend of Woolfe) saying smugly "it seems Steven Woolfe picked a fight with someone and lost".
Presumably he didn't know at that point that Woolfe had collapsed afterwards.
I have no time for UKIP but I wouldn't wish the bloke ill as many are doing on Twitter. Some of the stuff I've seen on there is quite disturbing.
