Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
I care about the economic wellbeing of Europe as a whole and I care about Ireland's relationship with the UK. A leave vote would leave us with all sorts of problems over here, not least of which is Northern Ireland and the peace process. At the moment, you hardly notice that you have crossed the land border. A leave vote may affect the peace process and would mean customs checks and delays on both sides. On a personal level, I still have pension interests in the UK and a strong UK is good for my pension and my retirement. I hope that answers your question Col. I am trying not to interfere and realise it is a vote for the UK people.


Cheers.
I was curious is all. I wasn't suggesting that you were "interfering".
 
Are you aware of the bilateral agreement between the UK and France in respect of Eurotunnel, Fing? Immigration checks take place (by the French authorities) in France before boarding, NOT on disembarkation in the UK

Does that change your view?

Fear not Goldie. In the event of a Brexit the French will tell us to piss off and "let us take control of our own borders" at Dover.
 
Fear not Goldie. In the event of a Brexit the French will tell us to piss off and "let us take control of our own borders" at Dover.
When I travel with the Eurostar from Brussels there are passport checks there by both the Belgian and then the British passport authorities - in the event of Brexit the British would only be able to police their end.
 
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Watching the latest TV debate and it is typical 'yah-boo' mind-numbing dross and still two weeks to go. I'm losing the will to live...

It is dreadful isn't it. Boris farts and half the audience claps and cheers loudly.

Him and Sturgeon are the only decent orators, unimpressed by the others.
 
Cheers.
I was curious is all. I wasn't suggesting that you were "interfering".
No probs Col. I will be off this thread soon as I am heading off in the next few hours for the Euros and I will be too busy. I am not back until polling day on the 23rd. Good luck everybody with the rest of the debate. I will respect whatever people choose.
 
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At least if Brexit win we can stop the Irish coming to the UK! (I know this is a bit racist but , fuuk fingy)
 
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At least if Brexit win we can stop the Irish coming to the UK! (I know this is a bit racist but , fuuk fingy)
No comment except to say, very wrong. We will still be able to travel over without passports. News of that obviously hasn't reached Brooklyn yet.
 
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Jesus Christ just watching the 'highlights' of this debate on the news is depressing. Seems like the Remain tactic was to be shrill about Chimera Johnson's No 10 ambitions, or at least thats how it looked.

Genuinely bewildered by what Blair and Major were up to in Northern Ireland. I get that Brexit could make the border with the Republic a bit more complicated, but how it could undo the peace process is beyond me. Perhaps someone closer to the issues could explain.
No, look at the facts of this case. This was a Ghanaian woman who tried to get into the UK with a false passport. The French were not able to hold her legally after she was caught

Per the Telegraph 7th June

"People can only be locked up if they later fail to comply with a deportation order, if letting them go risks undermining the deportation order, or if they are convicted of another offence."

This means migrants can make repeated attempts to get into the UK illegally as a result of this EU ruling
if she was a Ghanaian Commonwealth citizen surely we should have let her in and given her a vote in the referendum?

"If letting them go risks undermining the deportation order" is the key phrase.
 
Jesus Christ just watching the 'highlights' of this debate on the news is depressing. Seems like the Remain tactic was to be shrill about Chimera Johnson's No 10 ambitions, or at least thats how it looked.

Genuinely bewildered by what Blair and Major were up to in Northern Ireland. I get that Brexit could make the border with the Republic a bit more complicated, but how it could undo the peace process is beyond me. Perhaps someone closer to the issues could explain.

if she was a Ghanaian Commonwealth citizen surely we should have let her in and given her a vote in the referendum?

"If letting them go risks undermining the deportation order" is the key phrase.
One side of the NI divide wants in, the other side wants out. They are saying constitutionally people agreed to the peace process on the basis that people on both sides of the border voted on both countries being in the EU. Therefore the Good Friday agreement might become null and void. The shinners are hinting they might demand a vote on a United Ireland if leave succeeds.
 
One side of the NI divide wants in, the other side wants out. They are saying constitutionally people agreed to the peace process on the basis that people on both sides of the border voted on both countries being in the EU. Therefore the Good Friday agreement might become null and void. The shinners are hinting they might demand a vote on a United Ireland if leave succeeds.
I see. Messy. Thanks Fingy. Did you conciously vote on the EU bit, was it that explicit?

Now it's Question Time, and I've had to turn off at the first noise coming out of Farage's mouth.
 
QUOTE="sb_73, post: 9332420, member: 1020406"]I see. Messy. Thanks Fingy. Did you conciously vote on the EU bit, was it that explicit?

Now it's Question Time, and I've had to turn off at the first noise coming out of Farage's mouth.[/QUOTE]
I think most people on this side of the border voted consciously that no matter which country had control of the 6 counties wasn't that relevant as we were all members of theEU and therefore we were all equals and we all had a direct contribution on each others prosperity. The potential peace we would all enjoy was much more preferable to pointless deaths. People on the other side of the border may feel differently but we have a written constitution in this Republic which we adjusted to take into account the good Friday agreement and a leave vote would present huge legal issues for our constitution.
 
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Here's an interesting fact. Durham University takes in nearly 4000 students a year. Nearly 1500 of them are 'international students'. 20 (twenty, two-zero) black British candidates were accepted this year. There are similar imbalances in gender and social class/poverty in many universities, particularly the 'better' ones.

Something seriously wrong here.
 
QUOTE="sb_73, post: 9332420, member: 1020406"]I see. Messy. Thanks Fingy. Did you conciously vote on the EU bit, was it that explicit?

Now it's Question Time, and I've had to turn off at the first noise coming out of Farage's mouth.
I think most people on this side of the border voted consciously that no matter which country had control of the 6 counties wasn't that relevant as we were all members of theEU and therefore we were all equals and we all had a direct contribution on each others prosperity. The potential peace we would all enjoy was much more preferable to pointless deaths. People on the other side of the border may feel differently but we have a written constitution in this Republic which we adjusted to take into account the good Friday agreement and a leave vote would present huge legal issues for our constitution.[/QUOTE]


I had no idea, and I'd guess that most people this side of the Irish Sea share my ignorance.
 
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I'm sure nobody in Brooklyn is interested except for the Irish who cant afford to live in Manhattan!
Really, the last time I was in NYC (3 years ago), there were hundreds of thousands of Irish Americans living and working in Manhatten. Thousands of them died saving people trapped in the World Trade Centre on 9/11 on duty for the NYPD and NYFD. I saw the affection ordinary New Yorkers have for them when I attended the New York St Patricks Day Parade. In fact, that experience was one of the highlights of my life. It made me so proud that a little island like our's can have such a huge effect on a great city like New York. Is there a bit of anti-Irish'ness going on there Durbar?