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What the **** has happened to the United States of America? Trump is plainly mad and should be removed from office, but where are the Republicans who are prepared to say that the Emperor has no clothes on? Where are the ordinary Americans prepared to rise up against him? Yes, there will be demonstrations at the weekend, but does anyone think it will change anything? The World's burning and 36% of Americans approve. The rest either couldn't give a **** or are too disempowered to have any impact. The USA has become a rogue state.
 
You're always quick to defend Bibi aren't you? He's 'your man'.

Do you have similar warm feeling towards Trump? To me they're two cheeks of the same arse.

I’m not even defending him here. Just pointing out you shared a misleading headline to a complete non-story. Obviously if the election doesn’t take place when it’s due that’s a very bad thing.

And no. That you think they are says more about you than anything. Trump is mental. Netanyahu is conservative and not particularly liked in Israel but their almost too democratic voting system has helped keep him in power but having to make concessions to those to the right of him who under a different system would have no say but he’s not a moron and certainly not on Trump’s level. I’m not going to apologise for being supportive of the bloke for not giving a **** about the feelings of wets in the West who coo over their pet Palestinians.
 
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I’m not even defending him here. Just pointing out you shared a misleading headline to a complete non-story. Obviously if the election doesn’t take place when it’s due that’s a very bad thing.

And no. That you think they are says more about you than anything. Trump is mental. Netanyahu is conservative and not particularly liked in Israel but their almost too democratic voting system has helped keep him in power but having to make concessions to those to the right of him who under a different system would have no say but he’s not a moron and certainly not on Trump’s level. I’m not going to apologise for being supportive of the bloke for not giving a **** about the feelings of wets in the West who coo over their pet Palestinians.

I'd say Netanyahu starting a war to give himself a poll boost is really not a non-story.

You're right, he's not a moron, which makes him worse than Trump in many respects. I suppose there's no suggestion that he's a *****phile, though.
 
Not two sides of the same coin at all

Netanyahu has a plan and is following it to suit his agenda

The Persian TACO however has no plan and events are leading him

I read an interview this week with ex CIA chief Leon Panetta, a pretty clued up guy. He was clear, to really 'win' this war, Trump needs to put serious numbers of boots on the ground and that was never considered when 'Mad' Pete pressed the Start War button

This 10.day peace hiatus plays totally into the Iranians hands, I wouldn't be surprised to wake up Sunday morning to a doomed to fail US invasion
 
Ten years of the US being led by idiot Presidents has helped bring us to todays looming disaster. Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan and releasing $6 billion to Iran has been the catalyst for the instability in the region enabling Iran to arm it's proxies with their biggest hit being the 7th October massacre. Putin will happily support Iran which takes the spotlight away from his own slow grinding mess in Ukraine and that could spell problems for us as well. Trump's vanity could, if a ground invasion goes wrong, lead to anything as a loss of face would be unthinkable for him. Meanwhile China quietly sits back and watches the two biggest superpowers make arses of themselves. Xi is playing the clever long game...
 
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Ten years of the US being led by idiot Presidents has helped bring us to todays looming disaster. Biden's withdrawal from Afghanistan and releasing $6 billion to Iran has been the catalyst for the instability in the region enabling Iran to arm it's proxies with their biggest hit being the 7th October massacre. Putin will happily support Iran which takes the spotlight away from his own slow grinding mess in Ukraine and that could spell problems for us as well. Trump's vanity could, if a ground invasion goes wrong, lead to anything as a loss of face would be unthinkable for him. Meanwhile China quietly sits back and watches the two biggest superpowers make arses of themselves. Xi is playing the clever long game...
Nice finesse to blame Biden for this madness.
 
Anyone who believed the Taliban had become nice and cuddly and would keep their promises has to be a shilling short of a pound...
Of course he didn’t believe that, but they'd been there 20 years and achieved nothing. Cutting losses. Bush took them in, Biden took them out.
 
I was going to go on the march yesterday but the football got in the way. Still, half a million people (including Dave Paulden) turned up to demonstrate against the far right. Five times the number that Tommy Ten-Names managed to gather last year.
 
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