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Polling for The Times shows that just under a third of voters think that Labour under Starmer is more sleazy and disreputable than the last Conservative government. A further 31 per cent of voters think Labour are now just as bad as the Tories, while only 25 per cent think it is less so.
Short memories. Starmer hasn't sent one of his ministers to lie to the monarch, thereby unlawfully proroguing parliament. He hasn't had two anti-corruption advisers resign over his refusal act on their advice. Nor has he been fined for breaking laws that he imposed on the rest of the country.
This government's catalogue of perceived U-turns may well be viewed as incompetence, but it isn't sleaze.
Not as bad as the last Tory government is a horrifically low bar
Reeves rent, Rayner houses, freebies for all, clothes, specs, gigs, free use of flats for which Lord Alli got a free pass to Downing Street.
Reeves lies on CV
Labour donors and employees given civil service jobs without due process.
£170k job for crony Sue Gray, sacked from that given new non job, sacked from that, put in House of Lords
Louise Haigh forced to resign for not declaring fraud conviction
Our invisible foreign secretary has accepted £215k from the money men behind Labour Friends of Israel, which guarantees her impartiality
Plenty more of this kind of stuff, I’m not including the sex pests and nasty social media posts etc
Sleazy and incompetent. And why would you want to judge anyone against the standards set by Johnson? Surely we can aim a bit higher than that.
Yes, but you quoted a Times poll that did exactly that.
The 'sleaze' that you listed isn't anywhere near that of Johnson's government. Free specs and Reeves's CV? Come on!
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All too often there seems to be a link between sleazy practices by an individual in politics and their desire to get to the top
It really demeans the hard work of the many MPs that want to do the right thing for their constituents
It really demeans the hard work of the many MPs that want to do the right thing for their constituents
Think the days of people doing it for a genuine desire to improve the local area are dying. Now you’re basically a loyal staffer who has little to no experience outside of politics, voted in on a single issue you have no real ability to influence or in the game long enough to have stabbed your way to near the top. Anyone both capable of doing and wanting to do it probably won’t get far and could have a far less stressful, wealthier life doing something else. For the most part it’s a thankless task I’d imagine.