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The idea that the UK's police forces, routinely described as institutionally racist, would treat Muslim thugs more leniently than far right thugs seems bizarre to me.

The bizarre thing was the lack of police presence in Brum last night and the lack of coverage on MSM.....
 
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Any one person that can’t see or refuses to acknowledge that a clueless “leader” is fanning the flames of discontent with his wet finger in the air searching for a populist breeze
 
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The BBC needs to use BBC verify on themselves
Yesterday white rioters were attacking Asians in bmws in hull
Today they were actually attacking eastern Europeans in hull
Not quite the same headline and probably wouldn't have been mentioned by the bbc
If it's true and it's not being reported that a gangs of Muslims are attacking white people then it tells you all you need to know about the narrative being pushed by the authorities
 
The bizarre thing was the lack of police presence in Brum last night and the lack of coverage on MSM.....
As someone who lives relatively close to Brum I can tell you that it was all over the local ‘mainstream media’. False rumours had been spread of a racist protest and a lot of Muslims had gathered in a predominantly Muslim area. A small group of youths broke away from the mass and attacked one person* and did damage to a pub. The local Muslim leaders spent yesterday apologising, telling the kids that they have disgraced their community and also pointedly telling them that committing acts of violence while carrying Palestinian flags does the Palestinians no good at all. They have also been helping repair the pub.

It was a disgusting act, but much smaller in scale than the rioting in Tamworth and Stoke (just to stay in this TV area), which is why it has had less coverage.

Farage has put an 8 minute video out justifying himself, saying there were Muslim gangs at all the racist riots, talking about his personal security, saying that the centres of towns and cities are ‘not English’, claiming discrimination against ‘white British people’, boasting that he ended the BNP (by replacing them?), alleging two tier policing, and saying immigration has to end, amongst other rubbish. Inciting violence while trying to distance himself from it. If he gets his way and immigration does end of course the next target will be Muslim and black people who are already here, and who’s families might have been here for generations.


If he truly represents a significant number of ‘white British people’ we are genuinely ****ed.

*Just read that the manager of the pub has said that the man attacked had been ‘goading’ the youths. Still no excuse. 8 riot police officers with shields turned up at some stage.
 
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Dylan Carey, one of the mob that attacked the mosque in Southport last week, pleaded guilty to violent disorder at Liverpool magistrates' court yesterday. The thugs attacking the mosque were chanting 'Who the **** is Allah?' and shouting at police 'Why are you protecting them?', seemingly believing that the murderer of the three little girls had been a Muslim asylum seeker who'd just got off a boat and that the that the truth was 'being withheld' from the public. Where could Carey have got the idea that the truth was being withheld, though? Maybe the fact that that he was canvassing for Farage's limited company at the election should give us a clue.
 
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As someone who lives relatively close to Brum I can tell you that it was all over the local ‘mainstream media’. False rumours had been spread of a racist protest and a lot of Muslims had gathered in a predominantly Muslim area. A small group of youths broke away from the mass and attacked one person* and did damage to a pub. The local Muslim leaders spent yesterday apologising, telling the kids that they have disgraced their community and also pointedly telling them that committing acts of violence while carrying Palestinian flags does the Palestinians no good at all. They have also been helping repair the pub.

It was a disgusting act, but much smaller in scale than the rioting in Tamworth and Stoke (just to stay in this TV area), which is why it has had less coverage.

Farage has put an 8 minute video out justifying himself, saying there were Muslim gangs at all the racist riots, talking about his personal security, saying that the centres of towns and cities are ‘not English’, claiming discrimination against ‘white British people’, boasting that he ended the BNP (by replacing them?), alleging two tier policing, and saying immigration has to end, amongst other rubbish. Inciting violence while trying to distance himself from it. If he gets his way and immigration does end of course the next target will be Muslim and black people who are already here, and who’s families might have been here for generations.


If he truly represents a significant number of ‘white British people’ we are genuinely ****ed.

*Just read that the manager of the pub has said that the man attacked had been ‘goading’ the youths. Still no excuse. 8 riot police officers with shields turned up at some stage.

West Midlands Police chief has said he consulted with community leaders that there were online threats but was assured by them they could handle it so didn't prioritise a police presence. If that isn't two tier policing what is? The fact he would allow them to defend themselves is a worrying development in policing.
Starmer needs to broaden his policing horizon before someone is killed. His boast of policing 'without fear or favour' just doesn't wash...
 
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If the country that these morons say they 'want back' is one represented by Farage and his knuckle-dragging thugs, I want nothing to do with it.

Dylan Carey, one of the mob that attacked the mosque in Southport last week, pleaded guilty to violent disorder at Liverpool magistrates' court yesterday. The thugs attacking the mosque were chanting 'Who the **** is Allah?' and shouting at police 'Why are you protecting them?', seemingly believing that the murderer of the three little girls had been a Muslim asylum seeker who'd just got off a boat and that the that the truth was 'being withheld' from the public. Where could Carey have got the idea that the truth was being withheld, though? Maybe the fact that that he was canvassing for Farage's limited company at the election should give us a clue.

Get the feeling Strolls that Farage is living rent free in your head....... He is not the sole reason for these troubles.... maybes look further afield for the root causes....
Not everyone who is concerned about immigration, especially illegal immigration, is a far right supporter..... legal immigration is a good thing and has helped the UK become the great country it is, however hundreds of thousands of undocumented, mostly young men, arriving put a huge strain on the country's services and overwhelms communities that don't have the capacity to take them..... it is concerning and no government of either persuasion has had the cojones to deal with it.....
Like it or not this is now Starmers to deal with and so far he looks to be failing miserably..... he's not in opposition now and soundbites don't cut it......

Admittedly he's not been helped by incompetent police commanders who appear to be applying different policing methods depending on the nature of the thugs they're dealing with..... Two tier Keir does seem a suitable monica......
 
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Get the feeling Strolls that Farage is living rent free in your head....... He is not the sole reason for these troubles.... maybes look further afield for the root causes....
Not everyone who is concerned about immigration, especially illegal immigration, is a far right supporter..... legal immigration is a good thing and has helped the UK become the great country it is, however hundreds of thousands of undocumented, mostly young men, arriving put a huge strain on the country's services and overwhelms communities that don't have the capacity to take them..... it is concerning and no government of either persuasion has had the cojones to deal with it.....
Like it or not this is now Starmers to deal with and so far he looks to be failing miserably..... he's not in opposition now and soundbites don't cut it......

Admittedly he's not been helped by incompetent police commanders who appear to be applying different policing methods depending on the nature of the thugs they're dealing with..... Two tier Keir does seem a suitable monica......

Farage legitimises the thugs and, very subtly, encourages their violence. He shouldn't be allowed to get away with it.

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It's a but much to say that Starmer, who's been in power for five minutes, is failing miserably. It's clear that the police have been underprepared and under-resourced for handling a countrywide outbreak of racist violence and Starmer has now put in place measures to deal with this. Let's see how this plays out.

One of the Southport rioters, Derek Drummond, has just been sentenced to three years in prison.
 
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West Midlands Police chief has said he consulted with community leaders that there were online threats but was assured by them they could handle it so didn't prioritise a police presence. If that isn't two tier policing what is? The fact he would allow them to defend themselves is a worrying development in policing.
Starmer needs to broaden his policing horizon before someone is killed. His boast of policing 'without fear or favour' just doesn't wash...
I’m sure the police would have liked to consult with the leaders/representatives of the racist rioters as well, but sadly it doesn’t seem that it was possible, as no one will admit to representing them.

Of course, the stop and search figures show that ethnic minorities are targeted in excess of their representation both in the population as a whole and in relation to crime. Is that two tier policing as well?
 
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From 4 years ago...... old news..... BTW this isn't racist, it's about even handedly dealing with thugs from different communities.... don't make this something it's not......

That would be the same BLM movement that demands that the police are defunded....
You obviously didn't listen to Farage. He cites the 'soft' policing of BLM as an example of two-tier policing.