Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
bobmid said:
I think you've been caught up in the narrative that's infecting the dim witted. This murderer wasn't an Islamist terrorist, or infact a Muslim, nor was he an illegal immigrant who came here by boat. By all means use other examples to justify this reaction but you're way off the mark using these 3 poor children's murder for it.
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They are all killers that came into the country as a result of an immigration policy out of control.
 
I could take you a lot more seriously and even agree with you Goldy, if you highlighted our lack of infrastructure, schools, hospitals, housing etc as to why immigration is a problem. You just concentrate on isolated atrocities which fits with the narrative that effects the simpletons of the world. I'm sure you're better than that but I could well be wrong.
 
bobmid said:
I could take you a lot more seriously and even agree with you Goldy, if you highlighted our lack of infrastructure, schools, hospitals, housing etc as to why immigration is a problem. You just concentrate on isolated atrocities which fits with the narrative that affects one of that excusesthe simpletons of the world. I'm sure you're better than that but I could well be wrong.
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None of that excuses mass murder, Bob. You know that.
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
Yes, he was. The parents came from Rwanda where some of the grossest atrocities in recent years occurred. This type of immigrants and their families should be monitored carefully for the benefit of the public. Clearly they weren't
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Didn't realise Cardiff was in Rwanda. No wonder they seemed it unsafe
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
None of that excuses mass murder, Bob. You know that.
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My wife runs the NHS team in the local prison, full of murderers, rapists, sex offenders and other such bampots...male and female offenders, and some inbetween...a handful of these are immigrants. How do you plan to keep tabs on these ****s
 
Steelmonkey said:
My wife runs the NHS team in the local prison, full of murderers, rapists, sex offenders and other such bampots...male and female offenders, and some inbetween...a handful of these are immigrants. How do you plan to keep tabs on these ****s
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Sure there’s an issue of closing the gate after the horse bolted. The worst will be monitored by Counter Intelligence. The Southport murderer may have been. Intelligence is spread thinly during periods of mass migration. That’s the point
 
Goldhawk-Road said:
Sure there’s an issue of closing the gate after the horse bolted. The worst will be monitored by Counter Intelligence. The Southport murderer may have been. Intelligence is spread thinly during periods of mass migration. That’s the point
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That's not my point though....what about the lunatics who are indigenous to this country? Plenty of them, including child killers.

Constantly pointing the finger at immigrants as the only perpetuators of horrendous crimes is what lead to these riots. Some ****s are just pure mental, regardless of race, colour, religion or sexual orientation...time we were all tagged and surveilled from birth? It's the only option
 
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Steelmonkey said:
That's not my point though....what about the lunatics who are indigenous to this country? Plenty of them, including child killers.

Constantly pointing the finger at immigrants as the only perpetuators of horrendous crimes is what lead to these riots. Some ****s are just pure mental, regardless of race, colour, religion or sexual orientation...time we were all tagged and surveilled from birth? It's the only option
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Of course, they’re not the only perpetrators. Counter Intelligence will decide risk. It’s their head on the block if they get it wrong. Radical Islamists will feature highly on their lists, and certain immigrants that come from theatres of war etc They have finite resources as we may discover when we learn more about Southport
 
Lots of far right ‘protests’ planned in various cities, mainly northern, this weekend. Interesting article in The Times today looking at how these things are organised. Seems that the far right has its political wing, Reform, and its paramilitary wing with EDL and Patriotic Alternative. And they are pretty explicitly inter linked and cooperating. Providing Farage with plausible deniability will be increasingly challenging.
 
sb_73 said:
Lots of far right ‘protests’ planned in various cities, mainly northern, this weekend. Interesting article in The Times today looking at how these things are organised. Seems that the far right has its political wing, Reform, and its paramilitary wing with EDL and Patriotic Alternative. And they are pretty explicitly inter linked and cooperating. Providing Farage with plausible deniability will be increasingly challenging.
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Glasgow has basically told Tommy Robinson to **** off

Tommy Robinson not welcome in Glasgow - council leader
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Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, known as Tommy Robinson, has promoted a "peaceful protest" in Glasgow

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    1 August 2024
Glasgow City Council leader Susan Aitken has said far-right activist Tommy Robinson is not welcome in the city.

The English Defence League (EDL) founder, whose real name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, posted about a "pro-UK" rally in George Square next month.

He wrote "the British are rising" as he shared information about the "peaceful protest", to be held on 7 September.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c06k0m52p24o
 
sb_73 said:
Lots of far right ‘protests’ planned in various cities, mainly northern, this weekend. Interesting article in The Times today looking at how these things are organised. Seems that the far right has its political wing, Reform, and its paramilitary wing with EDL and Patriotic Alternative. And they are pretty explicitly inter linked and cooperating. Providing Farage with plausible deniability will be increasingly challenging.
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Which article was that?
 
sb_73 said:
Lots of far right ‘protests’ planned in various cities, mainly northern, this weekend. Interesting article in The Times today looking at how these things are organised. Seems that the far right has its political wing, Reform, and its paramilitary wing with EDL and Patriotic Alternative. And they are pretty explicitly inter linked and cooperating. Providing Farage with plausible deniability will be increasingly challenging.
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This is what I was saying yesterday. Farage knew exactly what buttons he was pressing.
 
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