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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Stroller said:
Well I don't know where the middle ground is, but since Johnson won in 2019 and kicked all the moderate Tories out of the Cabinet, replacing them with Brexity fruit loops, we've had the most right wing government in living memory. For anybody to think that moving further to the right is the way to go for the Tories is plain mad in my opinion.
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This is a delusional post. Where are the right wing policies? Paying 70 billion out on furlough for people to do nothing? Increasing legal immigration to nearly 700k a year? Sky high taxes to fund big government? Banning smoking? Refusing to leave the ECHR? Cutting police numbers? Refusing to consider identity cards? Making shoplifting legal?
 
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Uber_Hoop said:
I’m interested to understand in what way you think this government is right wing. I don’t for a second believe this bunch of incompetents are right wing despite the rhetoric that spills out their backsides.

It’ll be fascinating to watch a Starmer government backtracking… although they haven’t exactly stated anything solid that they’d do.

It’s all bollocks. Neither side has any answers to any of this bullshit because they don’t actually believe in anything.
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Have you forgotten that Liz Truss actually became Prime Minister for a day or two? There's a nasty, far right, xenophobic minority in this country, led by Farage, that Johnson, then Truss and now Sunak have sought to impress. Johnson didn't really care much about anything, Truss is plainly mad, and Sunak just isn't very good at politics, but each have moved the party further towards this vile rump.

Your comment about neither side having any answers is typical of many Tory supporters who know that their party has failed, I'm afraid. 'They're all the same', they cry - well let's wait and see. Starmer is immensely frustrating in that he's **** scared of upsetting the Murdoch press too much before the election, so isn't really committing to anything particularly radical. I'm hopeful, though, that his government will right a lot of the damage done to the country in the last fourteen years.
 
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Stroller said:
Have you forgotten that Liz Truss actually became Prime Minister for a day or two? There's a nasty, far right, xenophobic minority in this country, led by Farage, that Johnson, then Truss and now Sunak have sought to impress. Johnson didn't really care much about anything, Truss is plainly mad, and Sunak just isn't very good at politics, but each have moved the party further towards this vile rump.

Your comment about neither side having any answers is typical of many Tory supporters who know that their party has failed, I'm afraid. 'They're all the same', they cry - well let's wait and see. Starmer is immensely frustrating in that he's **** scared of upsetting the Murdoch press too much before the election, so isn't really committing to anything particularly radical. I'm hopeful, though, that his government will right a lot of the damage done to the country in the last fourteen years.
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I’m not a Tory, Strolls.
 
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