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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

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    Votes: 56 47.9%

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Female Labour MP's and party members being threatened, intimidated and having their offices vandalised by Far Left and Muslim activists over Gaza vote. Utterly disgusting, and doesn't bode well for Starmer when, as seems likely, he becomes PM.

Meanwhile Tories split down the middle on illegal boats.
 
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peter1954qpr said:
Having just settled my parents estates, the allowances were £325k for each of my parents, being they were a home owner that was being left to their children there was another allowance of £350k, meaning their allowance before inheritance tax was payable was £1m.
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Yes, it does add up when two parents have a separate estate each.
That's something I admittedly hadn't thought of.
 
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Goldhawk-Road said:
I assume it is, in about 2001. Apparently, he didn't negotiate, he just kept saying no...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/may/23/israel3
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There has always been a difference in Palestinian views on Israel between proponents of the two state solution and others who insist on a one state solution, with equal rights for all citizens irrespective of religion, which includes the right of return for the descendents of those Palestinians uprooted from their lands in 1947. In other words the 5.9 million refugees in camps in Syria, Jordan, Egypt and in Gaza. I don't know what was going through Arafat's mind in 2001 but I know that the PLO recognized the right of the State of Israel to exist in peace and security in 1993, so why nothing happened then I don't know. Maybe the ''right of return'' was the sticking point.
 
colognehornet said:
There has always been a difference in Palestinian views on Israel between proponents of the two state solution and others who insist on a one state solution, with equal rights for all citizens irrespective of religion, which includes the right of return for the descendents of those Palestinians uprooted from their lands in 1947. In other words the 5.9 million refugees in camps in Syria, Jordan, Egypt and in Gaza. I don't know what was going through Arafat's mind in 2001 but I know that the PLO recognized the right of the State of Israel to exist in peace and security in 1993, so why nothing happened then I don't know. Maybe the ''right of return'' was the sticking point.
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Nothing happened because there wasn't the will for it to.
Arafat had the best opportunity that I can remember for a good deal, but preferred to continue the struggle.
 
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Rishi Sunak - who's rumoured to be considering passing legislation to declare that he's 6' 4" tall - could lose his own seat at the next election according to recent polling. One poll, for GB News, has Labour 30 points ahead, with the Tories on 19%. Stop the votes!
 
rangercol said:
It was widely reported that both sides faced compromise, but that it was the best deal the Palestinians were going to get.
We'll all see it differently depending on our confirmation bias I suppose.
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The Palestinians asked for full sovereignty over the West Bank, and a complete return to 1967 borders. Together with the 'right of return'. What they were offerred was a Palestine separated into 3 cantons plus East Jerusalem - all with Israeli land between them and only custodianship (as opposed to sovereignty) over East Jerusalem - which would have involved Israel hanging onto settlement territory which turned East Jerusalem into an island. Not surprisingly the Palestinians rejected it and rightly so.
 
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Really getting fed up with all the pro-Palestinian demonstrations here in Canada, and around the world, especially amongst seemingly half intelligent college students who in reality seem to know **** all about anything these days. Part of me wants to say to the Palestinians here, "Why don't you all just **** off and go home", but then of course they don't have a Palestinian homeland, which in my opinion they should have.

Hamas doesn't care less about the Palestinian civilian population and use them as pawns, firing missiles from apartment complexes, with command and control centres linked by tunnels under hospitals. Hamas fighters are a bunch of wimps who hide behind old women in skirts (not literally of course) and their weak kneed pompous leadership are shacked up in luxury hotels in Doha, declaring they would do it all again, so why the **** wouldn't Israel want to annialate them once and for all. Let them go to that place with their 10,000 virgins, the evil bastards.

My Dad, a 3rd County of London Yeomanry, Sharpshooters Regiment, WWII tank regiment member originating just around the corner from Loftus Road, and loved following all the action of the 1967 Six Day War and 1973 Yom Kippur War, and in true R's sentiment would frequently annunciate, "Get in there"!

Dad, 2nd from left, with his mates on a London, likely Kilburn area rooftop, all died in WWII except Dad who was held back from D-day to develop the Sherman Firefly tank with the 17 pounder anti-tank gun mounted in the turret instead of the regular 75mm "peashooter" that could not penetrate German Tiger tank armour. Dad also trained Soviet tank crews at Bovington Camp in Dorset and shipped them back on transports to fight on the Eastern front, seen in attached photo are a regular Sherman and Sherman Firefly Soviet tanks fighting on the Eastern front, likely trained by Dad. One of those young men, "Ollie" wrote to Dad after D-Day telling him, "Vic, this morning we 'brewed" Tigers". Ollie was in a Firefly and was killed himself 2 weeks later as the Germans targeted the single Firefly in a troop of 4 Sherman's as that could kill them. They tried to camouflage the longer barrel in an attempt to make it look like a regular 75mm gun Sherman.
 

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peter1954qpr said:
Having just settled my parents estates, the allowances were £325k for each of my parents, being they were a home owner that was being left to their children there was another allowance of £350k, meaning their allowance before inheritance tax was payable was £1m.
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Not sure how this would have worked for my aunt and the £165k going to Inland Revenue tax coffers, but it really irked me seeing "family" inheritance money diverted from family members as we (I for one, my brother and one cousin) could have definitely put it to good use if she had not been so stubborn, despite the advice of her lawyer and accountant, and given it away, as in hindsight after her passing she obviously didn't need it herself.
 
Kilburn said:
Not sure how this would have worked for my aunt and the £165k going to Inland Revenue tax coffers, but it really irked me seeing "family" inheritance money diverted from family members as we (I for one, my brother and one cousin) could have definitely put it to good use if she had not been so stubborn, despite the advice of her lawyer and accountant, and given it away, as in hindsight after her passing she obviously didn't need it herself.
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I'm sure it would have been nice but if inheritance tax doesn't happen, how do you prevent giant families just hoarding it all up over time.

Why even stop there though, why do we have to pay any tax at all. I could really do with the government not taxing me 40% + 10% NI so maybe they should do that and i'd have more money to spend
 
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BobbyD said:
I'm sure it would have been nice but if inheritance tax doesn't happen, how do you prevent giant families just hoarding it all up over time.

Why even stop there though, why do we have to pay any tax at all. I could really do with the government not taxing me 40% + 10% NI so maybe they should do that and i'd have more money to spend
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BobbyD said:
I'm sure it would have been nice but if inheritance tax doesn't happen, how do you prevent giant families just hoarding it all up over time.

Why even stop there though, why do we have to pay any tax at all. I could really do with the government not taxing me 40% + 10% NI so maybe they should do that and i'd have more money to spend
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My aunt died wealthy, not super rich, with approx. £1 million. After my Dad died in Sept 1993 that aunt who was in a nursing home and hated it, demanded that my Mother (13 years younger) rather than emigrating to Canada to join me, take care of her in a home she purchased in Chandler's Ford near where my parents lived. She was very demanding and died 2 years later allowing my Mother to finally emigrate to Canada in Nov 1996 at age 76 where 3 months later she suffered a TIA, was put on blood pressure meds, which she hated, then a heart attack 7 weeks later, that she survived but I was told in ER that she would not be given the blood thinner Heparin due to stroke history. However a couple of days later the heart specialize told us after "enzyme" test that no damage to heart was present and that she must get out of bed and perform light exercise. Yet that same day Mum was put on IV Heparin and developed a bleed that could not clot resulting in massive haemorradic stroke that resulted in nursing home placement resulting in C$60,000 care bill, but the saving grace was that as a result of my Mother taking care of her sister, my aunt changed her will in favour of Mum rather than inheritance split 3 ways with the families of her other two sisters, and this money helped pay for her 12 years of nursing home care that was a blessing for me because when my Mother emigrated as a Landed Immigrant I had signed an undertaking that I would pay for her long term medical care for 10 years if she should require that.
 
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