Off Topic The Politics Thread

[Steelmonkey]

Lucy Letby seems to have been motivated by control, thrill, attention-seeking and anger.

Some have said she is psychopathic, yet she expressed remorse and disgust in her private writing. She was a Nurse Jekyll and Ms Hyde.

A good friend of mine has been an investigating officer on the case for a few years, says it bought him to tears at times...this is a hardened cop who has seen more **** than I'd ever want to have had to deal with. She tried to play the crazy card, but was deemed mentally fit enough to stand trial. In his words, she was just pure evil. There's further investigations ongoing, **** knows what the number of dead at her hands is going to be...hope she gets the **** kicked out of her every night wherever she ends up.

 

[Staines R's]

I just can't justify judicial killing in any circumstances.

That’s fair enough mate. You’re definitely a far better man than I can ever be. I’d want a nasty, bloody, painful revenge

 

[rangercol]

A good friend of mine has been an investigating officer on the case for a few years, says it bought him to tears at times...this is a hardened cop who has seen more **** than I'd ever want to have had to deal with. She tried to play the crazy card, but was deemed mentally fit enough to stand trial. In his words, she was just pure evil. There's further investigations ongoing, **** knows what the number of dead at her hands is going to be...hope she gets the **** kicked out of her every night wherever she ends up.

She doesn't deserve to continue living.

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

When a debate is emotions versus evidence and rational thought it’s probably better to go with the evidence and rational thought. Emotions are cool too though.

 

[Stroller]

She doesn't deserve to continue living.

No she doesn't, but I don't think that means that she should be killed.

 

[Staines R's]

When a debate is emotions versus evidence and rational thought it’s probably better to go with the evidence and rational thought. Emotions are cool too though.

No she doesn't, but I don't think that means that she should be killed.

This conversation got me to start watching the channel 5 doc/drama “The Child Snatcher”, which tells of the crimes of Robert Black and the hunt for him. Has interviews with the families of the little girls that were killed by him and is quite an emotional and hard watch at times. Didn’t know that when he was finally caught, by pure luck, the policeman who pulled him over found his own daughter in the back of the van, tied up in a sleeping bag and awaiting her fate.
An evil, vile **** who without any doubt whatsoever committed the crimes he was accused of, and probably a lot more, and someone who showed absolutely no remorse for what he did……sadly he died a natural death that he denied many others.
Yeah of course it’s emotion talking, but hey, I’d gladly have hanged the ****er

 

[Steelmonkey]

Lets bring back public flogging....that way the bitch gets to live, but every year she gets hauled out and flayed for the baying masses to cheer

 

[Star of David Bardsley]

On the bright side we’ll have fewer gender-neutral toilets soon. What a country.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/child-poverty-destitution-dwp-benefits-b2395322.html

 

[rangercol]

There was a post-it note or similar found that said that, but her defence denied she was writing about the deaths of the children

She obviously was then.

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

She obviously was then.

Yes, the jury must have been convinced she was writing about the children she had murdered, and the judge mentioned it during sentencing...but she's never admitted it and I doubt she ever will.

 

[rangercol]

Yes, the jury must have been convinced she was writing about the children she had murdered, and the judge mentioned it during sentencing...but she's never admitted it and I doubt she ever will.

Did she plead not guilty?

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

Did she plead not guilty?

Yes, the trial lasted 10 months.

 

[rangercol]

Yes, the trial lasted 10 months.

Presumably there's no suggestion she didn't do it?
I think she was arrested in 2018. Why has it all taken so long?

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

Presumably there's no suggestion she didn't do it?
I think she was arrested in 2018. Why has it all taken so long?

There was no direct evidence. No witnesses, cctv, DNA etc It was all circumstantial, but there was a lot of it apparently. She was being charged for murdering or attempting to murder over a dozen babies, so each had to be tried in turn.

 

[kiwiqpr]

Yes, the trial lasted 10 months.

imagine being stuck on that jury

 

[rangercol]

There was no direct evidence. No witnesses, cctv, DNA etc It was all circumstantial, but there was a lot of it apparently. She was being charged for murdering or attempting to murder over a dozen babies, so each had to be tried in turn.

Cheers.
I've found the reporting quite difficult to follow amid the media's usual hype.

 

[Goldhawk-Road]

imagine being stuck on that jury

They've been told they'll never have to sit on another jury. I should think not.

 

[kiwiqpr]

They've been told they'll never have to sit on another jury. I should think not.

surprised they aint all homeless if the pays the same as for nzs jury service

 

[Steelmonkey]

surprised they aint all homeless if the pays the same as for nzs jury service

This is the rates you can claim as a self-employed person in Scotland...

Amount of lost earnings

Allowance

4 hours of less at court

£32.47

More than 4 hours (for the period
from day 1 up to and including day 5)

£64.95

Whole day rate (for the period from day 6 up to day 100)

£129.91

Whole day rate (for each day following 100 days)

£230


**** that

 

[kiwiqpr]

This is the rates you can claim as a self-employed person in Scotland...

Amount of lost earnings

Allowance

4 hours of less at court

£32.47

More than 4 hours (for the period
from day 1 up to and including day 5)

£64.95

Whole day rate (for the period from day 6 up to day 100)

£129.91

Whole day rate (for each day following 100 days)

£230


**** that

First 5 days you attend court 6th and subsequent days you attend court
For each half day $31 $40
If you’re at court between 6pm and 9pm (this is your payment for the whole day) $89 $114
If you’re at court after 9pm (this is your payment for the whole day) $127 $163


my work paid me 40 hours while on jury service
i just ignore the letters now