Off Topic The Politics Thread

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
I haven’t really thought it through to be honest, it was just the spectacle of the Tories resorting to this type of tacit admission that free market capitalism leads to suffering that I found arresting. Though I suppose all the interventions during COVID, the state taking over failing rail companies and whatever they are plying at with energy prices all say the same thing - our core belief is bullshit. And we know it, but we still believe ultimately it will work. Classic doublethink.

No one ideology is perfect for everyone or even anyone. We’ll all disagree as to what is the best amount of capitalism or socialism or any -ism but despite some of my beliefs I think capitalism can be a force for good and without it we wouldn’t have developed half as much as a human race, positively or not.

The problem with it, very broadly, is that the people who benefit are usually those who need the benefit the least and those who suffer can least afford it. In good times that negative isn’t that noticeable- we’ll always have some poverty but not loads. Right now the negatives of capitalism are taking root more than any time in my life and maybe any of our lives. How much of that is due to the Tories is a debate. I’d say quite a lot.
 
They have forgotten to put “homeless and smack heads” along the south coast. Depressingly, it has an abundance of both.

There is a lot of that here. I assume it’s people bunking on the train from London to live in the relative warmth. The smack heads tend to be nice. It’s the crackheads you have to be wary of.
 
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