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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%

  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%
  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
Goldhawk-Road said:
If Corbyn had got in, we'd still be waiting for a Covid vaccine, and the UK would have declared war on Ukraine is support of Russia
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I can speak knowledgably on the first. Which is rubbish....UK is at the very forefront of vaccine technology, and would have progressed ( as it did) regardless of which government is in place. We would have developed the vaccine exactly at the same rate.
I have never criticised the government on the vaccine rollout. Would Corbyn have rolled it out similar...of course he would.
Certain of you here spend your lives criticising his left wing egalitarian politics, what else would he have done? Keep it for the paying rich???

( However, I am sure he would not have sold of the government funded vaccine Centre in Oxford to private enterprise a year later, like a certain Prime Minister called Boris did)

(£200m government-funded vaccine manufacturing centre has been sold to a private pharmaceutical company. The Vaccine Manufacturing and Innovation Centre (VMIC) in Harwell, Oxfordshire, has been sold to Catalent.6 Apr 2022)

on the second point, we would have gone to war on Russias side...now you are just being silly.
 
qprbeth said:
I can speak knowledgably on the first. Which is rubbish....UK is at the very forefront of vaccine technology, and would have progressed ( as it did) regardless of which government is in place. We would have developed the vaccine exactly at the same rate.
I have never criticised the government on the vaccine rollout. Would Corbyn have rolled it out similar...of course he would.
Certain of you here spend your lives criticising his left wing egalitarian politics, what else would he have done? Keep it for the paying rich???

( However, I am sure he would not have sold of the government funded vaccine Centre in Oxford to private enterprise a year later, like a certain Prime Minister called Boris did)

(£200m government-funded vaccine manufacturing centre has been sold to a private pharmaceutical company. The Vaccine Manufacturing and Innovation Centre (VMIC) in Harwell, Oxfordshire, has been sold to Catalent.6 Apr 2022)

on the second point, we would have gone to war on Russias side...now you are just being silly.
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I say again, it's a complete mystery why Corbyn recorded the worst general election result in several generations.
 
qprbeth said:
I can speak knowledgably on the first. Which is rubbish....UK is at the very forefront of vaccine technology, and would have progressed ( as it did) regardless of which government is in place. We would have developed the vaccine exactly at the same rate.
I have never criticised the government on the vaccine rollout. Would Corbyn have rolled it out similar...of course he would.
Certain of you here spend your lives criticising his left wing egalitarian politics, what else would he have done? Keep it for the paying rich???

( However, I am sure he would not have sold of the government funded vaccine Centre in Oxford to private enterprise a year later, like a certain Prime Minister called Boris did)

(£200m government-funded vaccine manufacturing centre has been sold to a private pharmaceutical company. The Vaccine Manufacturing and Innovation Centre (VMIC) in Harwell, Oxfordshire, has been sold to Catalent.6 Apr 2022)

on the second point, we would have gone to war on Russias side...now you are just being silly.
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Er...it wasn't a wholly serious post, demonstrated by the fact, however much Corbyn was sympathetic to Russia, the likelihood that he would have the UK declare war on Ukraine was nil. On the vaccine, since he would have held a second referendum on Brexit, supported by his lieutenant Starmer, it's quite likely he would have fallen in with the faltering EU scheme and our vaccine would have been delayed.

IMO
 
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rangercol said:
I say again, it's a complete mystery why Corbyn recorded the worst general election result in several generations.
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Hi Col.

Trouble with the Internet, is that I have no idea if you are being sarcastic or not. So I apologise if you are.


I have no idea either...he had a lot of faults but still
 
qprbeth said:
Hi Col.

Trouble with the Internet, is that I have no idea if you are being sarcastic or not. So I apologise if you are.


I have no idea either...he had a lot of faults but still
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I was being sarcastic Beth and with respect, the fact you don't understand why he did so badly, demonstrates why Labour have struggled so long for support.

It's taken a host of open goals provided by the useless Tories, together with Starmer taking a more centre left stance for them to finally emerge from the shadows.
 
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rangercol said:
I was being sarcastic Beth and with respect, the fact you don't understand why he did so badly, demonstrates why Labour have struggled so long for support.

It's taken a host of open goals provided by the useless Tories, together with Starmer taking a more centre left stance for them to finally emerge from the shadows.
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I do understand Col, very fully. I've even read books on the topic.
Yes a lot of own goals ( anti semitism in the party, lack of apology, unclear muddled policies including brexit), but also a lot of falsely negative media propaganda.

Plus the sexy appeal of the funny floppy haired one.
Why vote for a middle class grizzen leftwing socialist when you can have jolly, funny, nonserious Boris

You get what you voted for...and I am pleased to say I did not vote for them.


And for anyones information, I haven't voted Labour since I left Brent North 30 years ago ( it was staunchly Tory then, only turning Red after I left!)
 
Convince enough over-50s white people you’ll get Brexit done and the other lot are racist communists and you too can have a massive majority with 40-odd per cent of the vote. It’s a shame they aren’t nearly as good at fulfilling promises as they are coming up with catchy slogans
 
BobbyD said:
We live in the 1960s
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Cannabis is much, much stronger now than it was in the 1960's. And does a lot more physical and mental harm. That is Braverman's rationale. Can't say I agree though, because it's going to make criminals of youngsters unnecessarily.

Cannabis has been decriminalised in many countries now. I cannot believe the lessons learned from them is - ban it and treat it like heroin.
 
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