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peter1954qpr said:
Just to clarify:
A Britush holiday maker booing & jeering a British holiday maker for being on holiday
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Just to clarify :

A British holiday maker (probably a full-time, average everyday worker in a medium or low paid job) booing and jeering a British holiday maker ( the still currently employed prime Minister who since stating he would remain as such until his successor actually takes over, has been taking the p**s by doing all sorts of personal, trivial and leisurely things instead of any actual work for almost two months) for being on holi....(taking the p**s)
 
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bloody hell
more knife crime on the streets of london
what chance did he have

London mobility scooter stabbing victim named as Thomas O’Halloran, 87
Police seek to identify man seen on CCTV and say O’Halloran travelled 75 yards on his scooter before asking for help

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Thomas O’Halloran was well known in the community and regularly played accordion to raise money for Ukrainian refugees, say residents. Photograph: PA
Caroline DaviesWed 17 Aug 2022 18.02 BST


An elderly man fatally stabbed while riding his mobility scooter in west London has been named as Thomas O’Halloran.

Detectives said the 87-year-old was stabbed on Western Avenue in Greenford and managed to travel 75 yards on his scooter before asking a member of the public for help in nearby Runnymede Gardens.

Police released an image of a man seen running away from the scene armed with a knife, who they said they were “keen to identify as a matter urgency”. He was wearing grey shorts, a dark-coloured T-shirt, a white baseball cap and white patterned builder-style gloves.

DCI Jim Eastwood, who is leading the investigation, said: “We are keen to identify the man in the CCTV images as a matter of urgency. He is clearly a dangerous individual and people are advised not to approach him, but to call us immediately on 999 if they know him or have any information regarding his whereabouts.”

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CCTV image of a man who police say they are ‘keen to identify’. Photograph: PA
O’Halloran, understood to be a retired engineer, regularly busked with his accordion outside a local Tesco superstore and Greenford station, collecting money for charitable causes, including for Ukrainian refugees. One theory is he may have been followed by somebody who saw him collecting.

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CCTV footage, believed to be from moments after the attack, shows him flagging down two passersby, having been apparently stabbed in an alleyway next to the A40.

One person who lives near the scene, Frasley Coutinho, said he saw the victim surrounded by a group of young boys. Coutinho said he caught some of the incident on a CCTV camera but it was obscured by a plant.

He said: “I saw a couple of people gathering around him and then he drove past and stopped further up, and then there was a group of young boys around him.”

The Metropolitan police west area commander, Ch Supt Sean Wilson, said: “Yesterday an 87-year-old grandfather on a mobility scooter had his life needlessly snatched away in a shocking act of unprovoked violence right here in Greenford. I understand that our community will quite rightly be shocked and appalled at this incident, as I am too.”

He said detectives were “working tirelessly to understand what has happened and to identify who is responsible for this horrific crime”. Police were following up a number of inquiries and a forensic examination was under way in the area.

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Wilson appealed to the public for help, especially anyone with dashcam or cycle helmet footage.

“We believe that Mr O’Halloran was stabbed in Western Avenue shortly after 4pm yesterday, Tuesday 16 August, before managing to travel 75 yards or so on his mobility scooter to Runnymede Gardens where he flagged down a member of the public for help,” he said.

Extra officers are patrolling in the area. The scene was taped off as forensics officers in blue overalls examined the road in front of a row of semi-detached homes at the junction of Cayton Road and Runnymede Gardens, which runs next to the busy A40.

Customers and business owners in the small row of shops near Greenford station were shocked. “I saw the news and can’t believe it’s him,” said one. “Such a lovely, lovely man. Loved his accordion. And his scratchcards. Him and his wife were always buying scratchcards.”

Hitesh Patel, 62, a shop owner, said O’Halloran had a Ukraine flag on the front of his basket as he played his music. “It said ‘help for Ukraine’. He was a very good, kind man.”

John Robbins, 82, out walking in a small park near the scene, said: “You would see him regularly outside Tesco playing his accordion.”

Robbins and his neighbour Peter Banks, 94, said the incident would not deter them from their daily walk. “It used to be a very quiet area, but it’s all built up now,” said Robbins, who has lived there for 50 years. “There are yobs now riding around on their bikes,” he added.

His neighbour agreed, adding: “But there is no point worrying. If something is going to happen, it’s going to happen.”

Simran Advani, 25, a senior property manager who lives near where the stabbing took place, said she often saw an elderly man on his mobility scooter who “always used to smile”. “He was a nice old man. He often goes round the block, he always went on the road and not the pavement,” she said.
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It of that group of young boys a 44 year old has been arrested
 
UK: Afghan Muslim migrants reject homes in Scotland and Wales, ‘it’s cold and they don’t speak English’
AUG 17, 2022 2:00 PM BY ROBERT SPENCER42 COMMENTS





Imagine coming to a new country that has welcomed you from the war zone that your home has become, and instead of being grateful, being arrogant and demanding. It’s almost as if these guys think, they’re “the best of people,” as the Qur’an calls Muslims (3:110), dealing with “the most vile of created beings,” as the Qur’an calls unbelievers (98:6).

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“Afghan refugees reject homes in Scotland and Wales because ‘it’s cold and they don’t speak English,’” by Charles Hymas, Telegraph, August 11, 2022:

Afghan refugees housed in hotels have refused moves to Scotland and Wales because they believe the countries are too cold and don’t speak English, it has emerged.

Around 9,500 Afghans and their families evacuated from Kabul after the Taliban takeover of the country are still being housed in hotels a year on, at a cost of about £1 million a day.

This comes on top of the £3 million-a-day taxpayers’ bill for hotels for 26,000 asylum seekers including Channel migrants.

About 7,000 Afghan refugees have received permanent accommodation through councils but Home Office officials have yet to find appropriate housing for the remaining 9,500 evacuees.

Some have refused accommodation with reasons including that they do not want to go to Scotland or Wales because they believe they don’t speak the language and the countries are cold, according to sources….

In a letter to councils, dated June 27, Lord Harrington said the Government needed another 2,000 properties including more than 500 four-bedroom homes for the remaining 10,500 people….

It is also working with education establishments on converting properties to long-term accommodation, he wrote.

The Home Office said it faced a “challenge” of insufficient local housing accommodation in the UK, “not just for Afghans and those in need of protection but also British citizens who are also on a waiting list for homes”….

Several Afghans said living in hotels had left them unable to settle. “I know this is costing the British people but for what?” one refugee told BBC Two’s Newsnight.

Mohammad, who is in his 40s, said: “I want to settle and integrate but how can I when we are living in a hotel for months and months? I can’t start my life properly.”…
 
kiwiqpr said:
UK: Afghan Muslim migrants reject homes in Scotland and Wales, ‘it’s cold and they don’t speak English’
AUG 17, 2022 2:00 PM BY ROBERT SPENCER42 COMMENTS





Imagine coming to a new country that has welcomed you from the war zone that your home has become, and instead of being grateful, being arrogant and demanding. It’s almost as if these guys think, they’re “the best of people,” as the Qur’an calls Muslims (3:110), dealing with “the most vile of created beings,” as the Qur’an calls unbelievers (98:6).

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“Afghan refugees reject homes in Scotland and Wales because ‘it’s cold and they don’t speak English,’” by Charles Hymas, Telegraph, August 11, 2022:

Afghan refugees housed in hotels have refused moves to Scotland and Wales because they believe the countries are too cold and don’t speak English, it has emerged.

Around 9,500 Afghans and their families evacuated from Kabul after the Taliban takeover of the country are still being housed in hotels a year on, at a cost of about £1 million a day.

This comes on top of the £3 million-a-day taxpayers’ bill for hotels for 26,000 asylum seekers including Channel migrants.

About 7,000 Afghan refugees have received permanent accommodation through councils but Home Office officials have yet to find appropriate housing for the remaining 9,500 evacuees.

Some have refused accommodation with reasons including that they do not want to go to Scotland or Wales because they believe they don’t speak the language and the countries are cold, according to sources….

In a letter to councils, dated June 27, Lord Harrington said the Government needed another 2,000 properties including more than 500 four-bedroom homes for the remaining 10,500 people….

It is also working with education establishments on converting properties to long-term accommodation, he wrote.

The Home Office said it faced a “challenge” of insufficient local housing accommodation in the UK, “not just for Afghans and those in need of protection but also British citizens who are also on a waiting list for homes”….

Several Afghans said living in hotels had left them unable to settle. “I know this is costing the British people but for what?” one refugee told BBC Two’s Newsnight.

Mohammad, who is in his 40s, said: “I want to settle and integrate but how can I when we are living in a hotel for months and months? I can’t start my life properly.”…
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Every hard working person on a housing list with little chance of getting one will be delighted. 4 bedroom houses are like gold-dust...
 
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Hoop-Leif said:
Just to clarify :

A British holiday maker (probably a full-time, average everyday worker in a medium or low paid job) booing and jeering a British holiday maker ( the still currently employed prime Minister who since stating he would remain as such until his successor actually takes over, has been taking the p**s by doing all sorts of personal, trivial and leisurely things instead of any actual work for almost two months) for being on holi....(taking the p**s)
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He wouldn't be the 1st bloke to do feck all when he was working his notice
 
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Stroller said:
Yeah, it's not as if there are any pressing issues to deal with.
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But he can't deal with them when there's a new prime minister coming in at the beginning of September.

You can criticise, probably jusifiably, the leadership hustings being too long a process. But it doesn't matter who you have nominally at No 10 at the moment, they'll have no power whatsoever.
 
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