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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

  • Stay in

    Votes: 56 47.9%
  • Get out

    Votes: 61 52.1%

  • Total voters
    117
  • Poll closed .
You may be right, but all the indications are that he wants to disassociate himself completely from the Corbyn/McDonnell manifesto, which I really liked. It wasn't the manifesto that did for Corbyn.

I also don't like that fact that he's completely ruling out rejoining the Single Market.

I really think you are in lala land if the you think the electorate want this after leaving so soon.

Its not ideal and it might not be great in my opinion but this horse has been flogged to death and people will die on this hill. Its time to move on from this and to talk about rejoining will be the death of an election campaign. Best just to move on and make the best of it.
 
With external assistance? The whole of Boris’ Levelling Up agenda was based on a recognition of structural inequality (based on geography rather than class or ethnicity) wasn’t it? I recognise of course that nothing was delivered against this agenda……and that it was political expediency to retain seats rather than genuine desire to ‘level up’ Doncaster that drove the rhetoric.

The last few elections would indicate that the Tories are the ‘middle ground’ party, because they can capture enough of the floating vote to form a government. In some eras the ‘middle ground’ is much more to one side than the other, and I think we are in one of those periods.

I would agree about tories capturing the middle ground. I think that was more because labour for all their good policies had some really left wing policies that scared people off alongside the hatchet job on corbyn.

Saying that, i dont think the tories actually implemented many/if any policies that were to equal off inequality minus the stuff that came about because of the pandemic. I know they were giving extra money to constituencies which happened to have mps who back boris which i thought was pretty disgusting
 
I really think you are in lala land if the you think the electorate want this after leaving so soon.

Its not ideal and it might not be great in my opinion but this horse has been flogged to death and people will die on this hill. Its time to move on from this and to talk about rejoining will be the death of an election campaign. Best just to move on and make the best of it.

Why? It's not reversing Brexit, it's solving some of the problems arising from Brexit.
 
Why? It's not reversing Brexit, it's solving some of the problems arising from Brexit.

Brexit means Brexit means Brexit. No single market for us.

Obviously it’s the sensible move but why go for that when we can spend another six years crying about EU intransigence to distract from every other issue in the country?
 
You may be right, but all the indications are that he wants to disassociate himself completely from the Corbyn/McDonnell manifesto, which I really liked. It wasn't the manifesto that did for Corbyn.

I also don't like that fact that he's completely ruling out rejoining the Single Market.

You should vote for the Demmers of Middle Earth and the Namby Pambyshires, Strolls. Not only will they put us back into the EU, they’d give Brexit bollocks.
 
Why? It's not reversing Brexit, it's solving some of the problems arising from Brexit.

Yea joining the eu is reversing brexit (but with a worse deal than when we were in the eu).

I just reckon the party that campaigns on this will definitely get into power so i reckon its a smart call by starmer
 
Yea joining the eu is reversing brexit (but with a worse deal than when we were in the eu).

I just reckon the party that campaigns on this will definitely get into power so i reckon its a smart call by starmer

It’s not a very sexy policy to woo the Red Wall. Totally toxic issue which can only play into Sunak/Truss’ hands, IMO. Just gives the right wing of the Tories the ammo to scream “they’re trying to reverse Brexit” which obviously isn’t the case but makes for an easy soundbite. The more the next two years is focussed on Brexit, expensive and pointless as it is, the better their chances.
 
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It's all kicking off.

Hearing that Sunak's team are going to respond in kind.
Meh. He’s a very rich man. Of course it looks dodgy. Perhaps it is. If he hasn’t factored this stuff in he doesn’t deserve to win.

Meanwhile Truss says economic policy has been **** for two decades. Most of it under the Tories and including her two year stint as Chief Secretary to the Treasury. Still, I can’t wait to find out how she will revolutionise everything, stop inflation, raise pay and increase productivity by the end of Q3. Is she still Foreign Secretary? How much of her day does she devote to that?
 
Meh. He’s a very rich man. Of course it looks dodgy. Perhaps it is. If he hasn’t factored this stuff in he doesn’t deserve to win.

Meanwhile Truss says economic policy has been **** for two decades. Most of it under the Tories and including her two year stint as Chief Secretary to the Treasury. Still, I can’t wait to find out how she will revolutionise everything, stop inflation, raise pay and increase productivity by the end of Q3. Is she still Foreign Secretary? How much of her day does she devote to that?

I think we'll seen find out how she's been spending her time. Well, who she's been spending it with...
 
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