Do people really believe the **** that erupts from their mouths. Tax cuts blah blah, deliver deliver deliver......deliver ****ing what? Sort the economy out?!?! There wasn't anything wrong with it according to them all just over a week ago ffs!!!
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Anyone who votes down feeding hungry british kids has to have an element of evil in them!
The cost of living crisis has been an issue for many months. Politicians and businesspeople need to focus on improving productivity
Seems like no one in politics wanted to be handing out free milk
When did free school milk stop in UK?
In 1968 Edward Short, the Labour Secretary of State for Education and Science, withdrew free milk from secondary schools for children over eleven. His successor, Conservative Margaret Thatcher withdrew free school milk from children over seven in 1971, earning her the nickname "Thatcher, the Milk Snatcher".
It amuses me that the 'Milk Snatcher' thing is often brought up yet subsequent Labour administrations didn't seek to bring back free milk. I think we should bring back milkmen and proper milk bottles with silver lids, pecked through by the tits in winter.
They're all gunning for Mordaunt now, Braverman and Baker supporters siding with Truss and all of them slating Mordaunt for her support of Trans people. David 'Lord' Frost waded in too, saying that when she was his deputy in Brexit negotiations, she didn't 'master the detail'. This from the man that declared his own deal unworkable. Tory ****, such fun.
They'll probably do enough to see Truss in the final two against Sunak and consequently a Labour government at the next GE.
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Mourdant versus Sunak is like choosing between Savile or Glitter's dressing room.
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Mourdant versus Sunak is like choosing between Savile or Glitter's dressing room.
Classic Conservative election tactics:
1 I stand for tax cuts. That really seems to be about it.
2 Don't vote for a positive reason. Cast your vote to prevent someone else winning.
Frankly I don't know why they are bothering. Boris has ensured that they are doomed at the next GE as none of them have put forward a credible plan to get the country out of the slump it is in without returning to austerity measures for the next 10 years while rewarding loyal party donors, sorry my mistake Did I really say that? Of course I meant incentivising entrepreneurs to invest and thereby generate jobs. Lots of zero hours minimum wage ones to maintain healthy profit margins. That is after all what we are striving for. Lots of jobs and a high wage economy so that people can be encouraged to spend spend spend.
Where's Jeremy Corbyn or Diane Abbott when you need a role model for a target?
1 I stand for tax cuts. That really seems to be about it.
2 Don't vote for a positive reason. Cast your vote to prevent someone else winning.
Frankly I don't know why they are bothering. Boris has ensured that they are doomed at the next GE as none of them have put forward a credible plan to get the country out of the slump it is in without returning to austerity measures for the next 10 years while rewarding loyal party donors, sorry my mistake Did I really say that? Of course I meant incentivising entrepreneurs to invest and thereby generate jobs. Lots of zero hours minimum wage ones to maintain healthy profit margins. That is after all what we are striving for. Lots of jobs and a high wage economy so that people can be encouraged to spend spend spend.
Where's Jeremy Corbyn or Diane Abbott when you need a role model for a target?
I've reached the conclusion that my dream team (probably an excess of hyperbole there) is Truss/Badenoch. Truss is a safe pair of hands, to the right which suits me on illegal immigration, Brexit opportunities and Russia, and Badenoch is a smart cookie who is not quite ready to be a leader. Voters won't warm to Truss's austere personality, but they might to her policies, particularly the Red Wall voters.
My second choice is Sunak. Intelligent and capable, realistic on the tax position, generally more liberal. But he and his green card and billionaire's daughter wife might not go down a bundle with working class electorate.
Lord Frost's assessment of Mordaunt was believable and damning. She's not up to it intellectually even if she is beautiful and charming. If she became PM, it could be trouble unless she has some very capable people around her.
My second choice is Sunak. Intelligent and capable, realistic on the tax position, generally more liberal. But he and his green card and billionaire's daughter wife might not go down a bundle with working class electorate.
Lord Frost's assessment of Mordaunt was believable and damning. She's not up to it intellectually even if she is beautiful and charming. If she became PM, it could be trouble unless she has some very capable people around her.
All Labour are offering at the moment is they are not the Tories. Do you think that's enough?
Possibly. That's all they need to do. Keep quiet, play it safe and let the Tories stab each other in the back. Who'd have thunk they were all united 10 days ago propping up a man totally unfit for office.
I'm afraid they've lost the red wall already and for another generation if the views of the Labour voters in the North East who voted Conservative last time are anything to go by. They voted purely and simply for Brexit and not Boris. If it did come down to personality and charisma, (that;'s not what I've been told, I've gleaned that from conversations with them before the election) they voted against Corbyn and Abbott who they regarded as insane and with misplaced priorities.
They will have to come up with some bullshit to get the 'red wall' voters back.
Truss is just a non entity, another slogan pusher and people see right through it. Just a crazy eyed deluded Boris wannabe.
Mordant, I don't know much about her apart from looking alright in a swimsuit.
It's all a bit of a farce, televised ****e that we don't even get a say in unless you're a Tory party member.
The immigration issue might arise but people have fallen for that once already and I doubt they will be fooled again.
It would be refreshing to actually hear how they are going to cost the tax decreases and lower inflation. Unfortunately, I suspect it will be just more of the same old ****e.
They'll resolve the differences. The Tory Party are like Terminator 2, they explode, limbs and organ parts all over the shop, then they all gel again and off they run.
People have to have a positive reason to vote for Labour imo. Not Tory, and No Corbyn won't be enough. Look back to Labour electoral successes (not many). Blair got a real feel-good, can-do mood among the electorate. Starmer has barely put a policy forward, the most people have ever seen him motivated over was arguing for a second Brexit referendum, he has no policy in particular to illegal immigration and he thinks some women have penises. His front bench are low profile. There's a lot there for the Tories to work at during an electoral campaign.